2013 FCA National Meet

Jeff Kennedy · 11-09-2011, 02:56 PM

The Ferrari Club of America National Meet for 2013 wil be at Elkhart Lake, WI at the end of July going to the first Sunday in August. The track will be Road America.

There will be a planning meeting in Chicago the first or second week of December. I expect to go and am hoping that Andy will join me. If anyone else is interested in this let me know and I will get you the meeting details when I have them.

Jeff

wetpet · 11-09-2011, 03:15 PM

excellent venue

Jeff Kennedy · 11-09-2011, 03:34 PM

Wonderful track. Actual trees and green grass with a flowing layout and elevation changes. Not one of the Mickey Mouse layouts that have become so common.

The town of Elkhart Lake is quaint little place that welcomes cars.

Jeff

champagne612 · 11-09-2011, 05:14 PM

Count me in and please save me a spot!

If there are pre entry forms let me know.

Thanks Jeff

FWIW - Appreciate all your efforts!

Jeff Kennedy · 11-09-2011, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by champagne612

Count me in and please save me a spot!

If there are pre entry forms let me know.

Thanks Jeff

FWIW - Appreciate all your efforts!

The expectation is that there will be 500 attendees. Further they are expecting 40+ cars to come from outside North America.

If you want to help on an of the planning and organizing you are free to join on on the December planning meeting.

Jeff

jeffg11 · 11-23-2011, 12:44 PM

Looking forward to this event. I joined FCA yesterday because of it.

Jeff

Jeff Kennedy · 11-24-2011, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffg11

Looking forward to this event. I joined FCA yesterday because of it.

Jeff

Jeff,

Glad to see a new member of the club. There is a planning meeting December 10 in Chicago so should have some updates after that.

Jeff

Jeff Kennedy · 12-17-2011, 06:27 AM

Ferrari Life has graciously consented that I can start a thread in the Event section of the forum. In there I will be doing running updates and discussions on various topics.

For those that may be so inclined there will be discussions and solicitations for event sponsorships and for the Mercato (vendor marketplace).

The next organizing meeting will be in March in Chicago. If I understood it correctly this will coincide with an FCA National board meeting. Anyone interested in pitching in will be welcomed.

Jeff

champagne612 · 12-17-2011, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Kennedy

Ferrari Life has graciously consented that I can start a thread in the Event section of the forum. In there I will be doing running updates and discussions on various topics.

For those that may be so inclined there will be discussions and solicitations for event sponsorships and for the Mercato (vendor marketplace).

The next organizing meeting will be in March in Chicago. If I understood it correctly this will coincide with an FCA National board meeting. Anyone interested in pitching in will be welcomed.

Jeff

Jeff - send me an e-mail or pm.

Be more than happy to help any way I can.

Including hosting if the need arises.

rollsorferrari? · 12-17-2011, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Kennedy

Ferrari Life has graciously consented that I can start a thread in the Event section of the forum. In there I will be doing running updates and discussions on various topics.

For those that may be so inclined there will be discussions and solicitations for event sponsorships and for the Mercato (vendor marketplace).

The next organizing meeting will be in March in Chicago. If I understood it correctly this will coincide with an FCA National board meeting. Anyone interested in pitching in will be welcomed.

Jeff

Jeff, good luck with all the planning! Let me know if there's something I can help out with.

DtRockstar1 · 12-17-2011, 10:01 PM

Very far in advance, I like that. No other plans will get in the way of this.

Chris

Jeff Kennedy · 12-18-2011, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DtRockstar1

Very far in advance, I like that. No other plans will get in the way of this.

Chris

Are you aware of how much Detroit history there is to the FCA and Ferrari in North America?

Henry Ford II got a 212 Barchetta from Enzo in the early 1950s.
Edsel Ford does/did have a Daytona Spyder.
Harley Earl's son had a 375 for racing - led to the racing program of the Corvette
Dick Merrit lived in Detroit and was a founder of the FCA
Warren Fitzgerald, co-author of the Ferrari book with Dick Merrit, was with GM Styling
Larry Nicklin was at Chrysler and one of the creators of the FCA
William Markley of Birmingham is FCA member #1.
Virgil Exner was FCA member #84.
GM Design under Bill Mitchell owned a 246 Dino and a 308 Vetrossina.
Fred Lydorf had a 330 GTO and other historic Ferraris.
Dick Teague, Chuck Jordan and a whole lot more of the designers in town have been Ferrari owners.

Jeff

wetpet · 12-18-2011, 06:27 AM

more detroit facts. you can get 4 median priced houses for the price of an average 308!

champagne612 · 12-18-2011, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Kennedy

Are you aware of how much Detroit history there is to the FCA and Ferrari in North America?

Henry Ford II got a 212 Barchetta from Enzo in the early 1950s.
Edsel Ford does/did have a Daytona Spyder.
Harley Earl's son had a 375 for racing - led to the racing program of the Corvette
Dick Merrit lived in Detroit and was a founder of the FCA
Warren Fitzgerald, co-author of the Ferrari book with Dick Merrit, was with GM Styling
Larry Nicklin was at Chrysler and one of the creators of the FCA
William Markley of Birmingham is FCA member #1.
Virgil Exner was FCA member #84.
GM Design under Bill Mitchell owned a 246 Dino and a 308 Vetrossina.
Fred Lydorf had a 330 GTO and other historic Ferraris.
Dick Teague, Chuck Jordan and a whole lot more of the designers in town have been Ferrari owners.

Jeff

What was the story with Ford trying to buy Ferrari and later competing against Ferrari.

FWIW - I should have bought a Ford GT at 130k prices have gone up 10 -20% and still climbing.

DtRockstar1 · 12-18-2011, 08:06 AM

I didn't know all the specifics, but I do know there were a LOT of top men from the Big 3 that had Ferraris. Chuck Jordan had a lot. In fact, Bill Mitchell had his team buy a Ferrari V-12 engine and put it in a Firebird saying, "That's how our cars should sound!" They named this car "Pegasus," and apparently this car still exists today.

Chris

champagne612 · 12-18-2011, 08:15 AM

Not to take away from the thread ... the car was real and is alive and kicking.

Jeff Kennedy · 12-18-2011, 08:52 AM

Pegesus is an interesting (strange?) story. Not just a Daytona motor but a full Comp Daytona motor plus transaxle bought from Luigi Chinetti. Friend drove the car and said that it was a wierd sensation to hear the Ferrari motor but press the Pontiac labeled pedals.

Pegesus was protected from the press for a long time as it was considered too excessive. It showed the power of Bill Mitchell to have his company paid toys.

Jeff

Jeff Kennedy · 12-18-2011, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by champagne612

What was the story with Ford trying to buy Ferrari and later competing against Ferrari.

FWIW - I should have bought a Ford GT at 130k prices have gone up 10 -20% and still climbing.

The story of Ford almost buying Ferrari is interesting to say the least. It will be one of the factoid poanels I do for the Annual Meet. Basically it comes to how Enzo Ferrari was willing to sell to get a stable financial footing for the company. Henry Ford II wanted to have a performance side with a spectacular international pedigree. It all fell apart when Enzo was not going to get complete control of all Ferrari racing efforts without oversight from Detroit.

There are some contentions that Enzo's manuevers with Ford were a ploy to get Agnelli/Fiat to step up and save the company from the crass Americans.

The aftermath of the collapsed talks is clear. Henry Ford II wanted to crush Ferrari in international racing. The Ford GT program was started. The Shelby Cobras were supported in FIA racing. Cosworth was funded to create the F1 engine. Ferrari ultimately got the deal he wanted from Agnelli and a secure future without interference in the racing side - the production side became more and more of a Fiat defined operation.

Doug - you get my e-mails?

Jeff

DtRockstar1 · 12-18-2011, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by champagne612

Not to take away from the thread ... the car was real and is alive and kicking.

Yup! I read that article on the Motor Trend site. Does anyone know the whereabouts of this car?

Chris

Jeff Kennedy · 12-18-2011, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DtRockstar1

Yup! I read that article on the Motor Trend site. Does anyone know the whereabouts of this car?

Chris

I expect it is still with GM. This was not personally owned by Bill Mitchell.

Jeff

11-09-2011, 03:15 PM	#2
wetpet Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chevy Chase, Md Ferrari Life Posts: 6,604 Name: Ed	excellent venue Everything you know is wrong Stop chatting and start living the ferrarilife!

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champagne612 Owner Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: St Louis Ferrari Life Posts: 4,631 Name: Doug	Count me in and please save me a spot! If there are pre entry forms let me know. Thanks Jeff FWIW - Appreciate all your efforts! 612 Nuvolari 16M Grigio Ferro

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wetpet Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chevy Chase, Md Ferrari Life Posts: 6,604 Name: Ed	more detroit facts. you can get 4 median priced houses for the price of an average 308! Everything you know is wrong Stop chatting and start living the ferrarilife!

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11-09-2011, 02:56 PM	#1
Jeff Kennedy Owner Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Edwardsville, IL Ferrari Life Posts: 380 Name: Jeff Kennedy	2013 FCA National Meet The Ferrari Club of America National Meet for 2013 wil be at Elkhart Lake, WI at the end of July going to the first Sunday in August. The track will be Road America. There will be a planning meeting in Chicago the first or second week of December. I expect to go and am hoping that Andy will join me. If anyone else is interested in this let me know and I will get you the meeting details when I have them. Jeff

11-09-2011, 03:34 PM	#3
Jeff Kennedy Owner Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Edwardsville, IL Ferrari Life Posts: 380 Name: Jeff Kennedy	Wonderful track. Actual trees and green grass with a flowing layout and elevation changes. Not one of the Mickey Mouse layouts that have become so common. The town of Elkhart Lake is quaint little place that welcomes cars. Jeff

11-23-2011, 12:44 PM	#6
jeffg11 Owner Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: White Lake, MI Ferrari Life Posts: 11 Name: Jeffery	Looking forward to this event. I joined FCA yesterday because of it. Jeff

12-17-2011, 06:27 AM	#8
Jeff Kennedy Owner Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Edwardsville, IL Ferrari Life Posts: 380 Name: Jeff Kennedy	Ferrari Life has graciously consented that I can start a thread in the Event section of the forum. In there I will be doing running updates and discussions on various topics. For those that may be so inclined there will be discussions and solicitations for event sponsorships and for the Mercato (vendor marketplace). The next organizing meeting will be in March in Chicago. If I understood it correctly this will coincide with an FCA National board meeting. Anyone interested in pitching in will be welcomed. Jeff

12-17-2011, 10:01 PM	#11
DtRockstar1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Livonia, MI Ferrari Life Posts: 18 Name: Chris	Very far in advance, I like that. No other plans will get in the way of this. Chris

12-18-2011, 08:06 AM	#15
DtRockstar1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Livonia, MI Ferrari Life Posts: 18 Name: Chris	I didn't know all the specifics, but I do know there were a LOT of top men from the Big 3 that had Ferraris. Chuck Jordan had a lot. In fact, Bill Mitchell had his team buy a Ferrari V-12 engine and put it in a Firebird saying, "That's how our cars should sound!" They named this car "Pegasus," and apparently this car still exists today. Chris

12-18-2011, 08:52 AM	#17
Jeff Kennedy Owner Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Edwardsville, IL Ferrari Life Posts: 380 Name: Jeff Kennedy	Pegesus is an interesting (strange?) story. Not just a Daytona motor but a full Comp Daytona motor plus transaxle bought from Luigi Chinetti. Friend drove the car and said that it was a wierd sensation to hear the Ferrari motor but press the Pontiac labeled pedals. Pegesus was protected from the press for a long time as it was considered too excessive. It showed the power of Bill Mitchell to have his company paid toys. Jeff