[JazzyO]

I spotted a F50 for sale in the Ferrari Market Letter today. Don't worry, 212Export you won't be tempted:

Asking price: $939k! What are they smoking? Boxer, is the pricing in the US very different for the F50?

http://www.penskewynn.com/Preowned-Inventory.aspx


Onno

[Boxer]

Originally Posted by JazzyO

I spotted a F50 for sale in the Ferrari Market Letter today. Don't worry, 212Export you won't be tempted:

Asking price: $939k! What are they smoking? Boxer, is the pricing in the US very different for the F50?

http://www.penskewynn.com/Preowned-Inventory.aspx


Onno

Pricing in the US is 50-70% higher.

[JazzyO]

Wow. Still seems expensive compared to the UK one, then. But I assume you can't pick and choose, not many come to the market in the US and you can't import them from Europe yet.


Onno

[Boxer]

Originally Posted by JazzyO

Wow. Still seems expensive compared to the UK one, then. But I assume you can't pick and choose, not many come to the market in the US and you can't import them from Europe yet.


Onno

Only 1 or 2 come to market in the US in any given year which really drives prices.

Regarding imports, you can bring 1995 F50s in and go through the DOT/EPA conversion process. Bill will be around $70k-100k. Otherwise you need to wait until they reach the 25 year old mark.

[SCM246]

Originally Posted by Boxer

Pricing in the US is 50-70% higher.

It seems you are correct seeing:
http://www.joemacari.com/cars_for_sale.html
http://www.joemacari.com/cars/ferrar...scription.html
£355,000

[Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS]

Now I can understand one of the reasons why 212Export is tempted for F50 acquisition. w/ smiles Jimmy

[SCM246]

Here's one with some liberal customizations
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...?itemid=686142
Note that the VIN's digit number eight is not an "A" meaning it was not produced for the USA market

[Ollenaram550]

Graypaul Nottingham had one in the showroom when I was last in around mid December 2009.

From memory the ticket price was £335. Might have been £ 355 though. But in that region.

They also had FIVE 16m's that day. I was told only 49 RHD were made. If true then they had 10% of total RHD build in their showroom. There was an all black model. Absolutely everything was balck. Was the most menacing looking car I've ever seen. Nevertheless, I would have had the yellow one. Stunning.

[Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS]

Hard to believe the price difference between the opposite ends of Atlantic. w/ smiles Jimmy

[SCM246]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS

Hard to believe the price difference between the opposite ends of Atlantic. w/ smiles Jimmy

At the time the US was on the verge of requiring OBDII (On Board Diagnostic) standard connectors and software interface so the US versions were a bit different.

[Granucci]

Saw this F50, recently [looks current] and the VIN/SN is very cool : 99999

http://www.ritedrive.com/Inventory/V.../lid/4714.aspx

[212Export]

Originally Posted by Granucci

Saw this F50, recently [looks current] and the VIN/SN is very cool : 99999

http://www.ritedrive.com/Inventory/V.../lid/4714.aspx

Chassis 99999 was the first F50 showed in public at the Geneva Car Salon 1995.

[SCM246]

Weren't there five with that s/n?

Gotta check the door lock tumbler number to accurately identify the F50

[Boxer]

Originally Posted by SCM246

Weren't there five with that s/n?

Gotta check the door lock tumbler number to accurately identify the F50

Yes, believe 5 have been identified. Last one I know if was sold by belgoexports a few years ago.

[Granucci]

Originally Posted by SCM246

Weren't there five with that s/n?

Gotta check the door lock tumbler number to accurately identify the F50

Originally Posted by Boxer

Yes, believe 5 have been identified. Last one I know if was sold by belgoexports a few years ago.

Wait. FIVE?! How can there be multiple of the same serial number...even Ferrari restamps many in their Classiche program let alone get all twisty when a serial number attemps to be something of question [remembering the numerous number debates, of which Cavallino's latest issue shows chasis number to have been mis-stamped].

[Boxer]

Originally Posted by Granucci

Wait. FIVE?! How can there be multiple of the same serial number...even Ferrari restamps many in their Classiche program let alone get all twisty when a serial number attemps to be something of question [remembering the numerous number debates, of which Cavallino's latest issue shows chasis number to have been mis-stamped].

Well, how many FXX's do you believe there are?

[Granucci]

Originally Posted by Boxer

Well, how many FXX's do you believe there are?

depends on what propaganda one reads, originally there were to be 299+1, but the Pope auctioned off #300....then there were the extra 200 or so I've heard going about, but numbers vs SN's?

So, IF I understand your comment, you are saying the SNs are duplicated for the mystery Enzos too?

still, don't know how one would register a car with duplicate trailing #s even if the prefixes might be diff...what would Classiche say? []

[Boxer]

Originally Posted by Granucci

depends on what propaganda one reads, originally there were to be 299+1, but the Pope auctioned off #300....then there were the extra 200 or so I've heard going about, but numbers vs SN's?

So, IF I understand your comment, you are saying the SNs are duplicated for the mystery Enzos too?

still, don't know how one would register a car with duplicate trailing #s even if the prefixes might be diff...what would Classiche say? []

You are thinking of the Enzo. Officially 399 +1 for the Pope. Unofficially about 460. On the FXX, offically 29 +1 for Schumi. Unofficially 33.

[Granucci]

Ok last two questions, and this is minus the ones mistakingly stamped, but in regards to stamped as is out the door:

1. Can there be duplicate numbers: I'm saying not, even in terms of country codes being different.
2. OF the #99999 mentioned above: How can they stamp five models? Did they destroy bodies, were they prototypes not for production and only 1 sold? I've just never heard of such and don't get it....dense I guess.

[Boxer]

Originally Posted by Granucci

2. OF the #99999 mentioned above: How can they stamp five models? Did they destroy bodies, were they prototypes not for production and only 1 sold? I've just never heard of such and don't get it....dense I guess.

answer is....they are Ferrari