[Boxer]

Originally Posted by William H

I have a pair of custom TRs

1 is a straman 512M

The other is a 92 512TR race car. She has a Koenig body, weighs 2800, stock engine w Motech ignition and 505 hp on 110 octane, Bob Wallace race trans, fuel cell, penske shocks, full cage, F50 brakes, slicks, and stax instruments

I have a spare engine that I will be rebuilding to make 600 hp then I want to redo the body and some other bits in carbon fiber and see if I can drop the weight down to 2700

She does 0:58s at Lime Rock and 2:10 at Watkins Glen

Very impressive piece of kit. How does it compare to the F40 on the track ?

[William H]

Thanks, my F40 is mostly stock although I added F50 brakes and Tubi straight pipes and a digital boost controller

The 512TR racer will pretty much destroy a stock F40 on just about any track

The F40 accelerates harder but the 512TR brakes harder and Ive learned to toss her like a big 308

Ive only tracked the F40 once with the stock brakes adn road tires and those brakes were so bad it was ridiculous, my Chevy SUV had better brakes

Also the 512TR is much safer since its a dedicated track car so I either take that or my 07 Corvette Z06 out when I really want to play on track

[Boxer]

Originally Posted by William H

Thanks, my F40 is mostly stock although I added F50 brakes and Tubi straight pipes and a digital boost controller

The 512TR racer will pretty much destroy a stock F40 on just about any track

The F40 accelerates harder but the 512TR brakes harder and Ive learned to toss her like a big 308

Ive only tracked the F40 once with the stock brakes adn road tires and those brakes were so bad it was ridiculous, my Chevy SUV had better brakes

Also the 512TR is much safer since its a dedicated track car so I either take that or my 07 Corvette Z06 out when I really want to play on track

Had a similar experience tracking my F40 once. The stock brakes and road tires make it an experience not for the faint of heart. The 360 Challenge would eat it alive in the corners and in terms of braking. I keep debating whether or not to upgrade to the F50 brakes but have held off as I really do not what to change the wheels.

[William H]

Originally Posted by Boxer

Had a similar experience tracking my F40 once. The stock brakes and road tires make it an experience not for the faint of heart. The 360 Challenge would eat it alive in the corners and in terms of braking. I keep debating whether or not to upgrade to the F50 brakes but have held off as I really do not what to change the wheels.

You dont have to change the wheels. I got my F50 brakes from Nick's Forza Ferrari, I think they are in CA.

The F50 brakes made the F40 much more enjoyable for me. I really was not too happy w the car before I swapped the brakes. Afterwards I love the car

[Boxer]

Originally Posted by William H

You dont have to change the wheels. I got my F50 brakes from Nick's Forza Ferrari, I think they are in CA.

The F50 brakes made the F40 much more enjoyable for me. I really was not too happy w the car before I swapped the brakes. Afterwards I love the car

Net net, I assume you were able to directly swap the F40 for F50 brakes. Anything else that needed to be done ? Were you able to use the existing master cylinders ?

(sorry for all the questions but this seems like a great solution as you could then swap back to the stock brakes if needed)

[William H]

Originally Posted by Boxer

Net net, I assume you were able to directly swap the F40 for F50 brakes. Anything else that needed to be done ? Were you able to use the existing master cylinders ?

(sorry for all the questions but this seems like a great solution as you could then swap back to the stock brakes if needed)

Yes, there is a kit that allows the current MC, although no doubt it would be stronger w a better MC

Heres the link http://www.nicksforzaferrari.com/bre..._list_2008.pdf

I've bought lots of stuff from Nick, no problems

It makes the F40 much more drivable and enjoyable

I love my Tubi straight pipes too

I also added a few speakers and my iPod bcus I got a bit bored cruising in town w no tunes, thats a carbon fiber steering wheel too

[Boxer]

Originally Posted by William H

Yes, there is a kit that allows the current MC, although no doubt it would be stronger w a better MC

Heres the link http://www.nicksforzaferrari.com/bre..._list_2008.pdf

I've bought lots of stuff from Nick, no problems

It makes the F40 much more drivable and enjoyable

I love my Tubi straight pipes too

I also added a few speakers and my iPod bcus I got a bit bored cruising in town w no tunes, thats a carbon fiber steering wheel too

Thanks, I will give Nick a call later this week.

[William H]

The 512TR does pretty well against BBLM's they seem to have more power for the moment but I can outbrake and outhandle them all day long

I'd love to drive an F40LM someday, that thing is a Monster

[Boxer]

Originally Posted by William H

The 512TR does pretty well against BBLM's they seem to have more power for the moment but I can outbrake and outhandle them all day long

I'd love to drive an F40LM someday, that thing is a Monster

The one I would really like to take around a track is a F50 GT.

[William H]

Yeah, I saw that one on the track twice. Ive met its owner Art Z, nice guy.

That thing sounds amazing and its a monster

[Boxer]

Originally Posted by William H

Yeah, I saw that one on the track twice. Ive met its owner Art Z, nice guy.

That thing sounds amazing and its a monster

The limits on the F50 are intimidately high. On all the other F cars I have driven, the F50 is the most imposing.

[William H]

Does the F50 vibrate a lot more than the F40 ?

I heard people complain about that bcus the engine is a stressed member

[Boxer]

Originally Posted by William H

Does the F50 vibrate a lot more than the F40 ?

I heard people complain about that bcus the engine is a stressed member

Yes it does vibrate more as the engine is bolted to the bulkhead. You don't really notice it except on long trips (4-5 hours) when it can get a bit tiring.

[Albert V8]

Originally Posted by William H

You dont have to change the wheels. I got my F50 brakes from Nick's Forza Ferrari, I think they are in CA.

The F50 brakes made the F40 much more enjoyable for me. I really was not too happy w the car before I swapped the brakes. Afterwards I love the car

Originally Posted by William H

Yes, there is a kit that allows the current MC, although no doubt it would be stronger w a better MC

Heres the link http://www.nicksforzaferrari.com/bre..._list_2008.pdf

I've bought lots of stuff from Nick, no problems

It makes the F40 much more drivable and enjoyable

I love my Tubi straight pipes too

I also added a few speakers and my iPod bcus I got a bit bored cruising in town w no tunes, thats a carbon fiber steering wheel too

I didn't realise you could use the F50 brakes with the original wheels.

Do you have any pictures you could share please?

[Boxer]

Originally Posted by Albert V8

I didn't realise you could use the F50 brakes with the original wheels.

Do you have any pictures you could share please?

I have also heard of this being done. One thing to note, while the F50 brakes are definitely better than the F40, they are still not on par with current technology. Best brakes I have had on a Ferrari were the ones fitted to the 360 Challenge.

[Boxer]

Originally Posted by Albert V8

I didn't realise you could use the F50 brakes with the original wheels.

Do you have any pictures you could share please?

Are you going to the F40 25th Anniversary Event next summer at Silverstone?

[champagne612]

Originally Posted by Boxer

Are you going to the F40 25th Anniversary Event next summer at Silverstone?

Wow ... miss reading the WilliamH posts on a Ferrari forum.

But seeing his posts on fb of hot chics playing on his "in house" stripper pole isn't bad

[Albert V8]

Originally Posted by Boxer

Are you going to the F40 25th Anniversary Event next summer at Silverstone?

Be rude not too

Merry Christmas!