F40 Rear end stepping out

Boxer · 10-31-2010, 02:54 AM

Took the F40 out for a short run yesterday. Pavement was still wet from rain earlier in the day so I did take it pretty easy and carefully. Very glad I did. The second time I spooled up the turbos a bit (on a very straight clear road) the rear started sliding to the right. A quick correction caught it and ended the drama quickly. However it was a good reminder on just how much respect you always need to give a F40.

JazzyO · 10-31-2010, 03:31 AM

Asphalt is getting colder now, too, which makes a huge difference. I believe right now is the most dangerous time for supercar owners. We want to take in the last opportunity to drive our cars, but we easily forget it is not summer anymore. I've mentioned this before but it's a great example: an acquaintance drove his F50 last year. It was sunny but the road was damp. It was about 5 degrees C. He lost all grip driving onto an onramp at 40km/h. Car hit a tree and was a complete write-off.

Wide, sticky tyres and cold, damp asphalt do not go together. Be careful out there!! Remember also that the weather might be warmer than the road - if it's been freezing at night the asphalt will take quite some time to warm up, and maybe very cold even though the air temperature is much warmer.

I am driving to Italy in 2 weeks and I wanted to take the 550. But now I'm thinking I should really put some winter tyres on the 335i and take that. It just makes so much more sense (even apart from the legal implications of not having winter tyres in various European countries).

Onno

Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS · 10-31-2010, 03:34 AM

Thinking of what may have happened, that would scare the lights out of me. Very fortunate, indeed and glad to know it was just a reminder for you, Boxer. w/ smiles Jimmy

Boxer · 10-31-2010, 06:15 AM

Definitely a good reminder of how careful on needs to be this time of year.

wetpet · 10-31-2010, 07:05 AM

we had a gt40 get sideways and go off the road with us once. same situation, super car, cold tires, too much right foot.

212Export · 10-31-2010, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxer

Definitely a good reminder of how careful on needs to be this time of year.

I agree totally. We just came back from a nice little trip in the F40. Temperature was 10 degrees all day long and the surface was dry. Because of the mounting dangers you mentioned I let my wife drive it

..all the way. She has not used the turbo rpm's but rather drove within the 1500 and 3000 rpm's range, calm but excercising fast gear changing. That way she will gain experience with the clutch and gear change in general. She did an excellent job today and I'm very proud of her. Thanks for the reminder.

Boxer · 10-31-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 212Export

She has not used the turbo rpm's but rather drove within the 1500 and 3000 rpm's range, calm but excercising fast gear changing. That way she will gain experience with the clutch and gear change in general. She did an excellent job today and I'm very proud of her. Thanks for the reminder.

Keeping it under 3000 rpm will certainly limit the potential for much drama. Good call.

Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS · 10-31-2010, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 212Export

I agree totally. We just came back from a nice little trip in the F40. Temperature was 10 degrees all day long and the surface was dry. Because of the mounting dangers you mentioned I let my wife drive it

..all the way. She has not used the turbo rpm's but rather drove within the 1500 and 3000 rpm's range, calm but excercising fast gear changing. That way she will gain experience with the clutch and gear change in general. She did an excellent job today and I'm very proud of her. Thanks for the reminder.

I am proud of you both. w/ smiles Jimmy

212Export · 10-31-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS

I am proud of you both. w/ smiles Jimmy

I read between the lines Jimmy.......

!
But seriously now...it was a little boring too of course, but worth the effort to try to get away with her fear from the car (and the turbos).

Boxer · 10-31-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 212Export

I read between the lines Jimmy.......

!
But seriously now...it was a little boring too of course, but worth the effort to try to get away with her fear from the car (and the turbos).

The fact that she is willing to even try is hugely impressive.

Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS · 10-31-2010, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 212Export

I read between the lines Jimmy.......

!
But seriously now...it was a little boring too of course, but worth the effort to try to get away with her fear from the car (and the turbos).

My statement was purely out of respect and awe, 212Export !!! Just as Boxer stated, I agree totally, ...but yet, for one minor point, that is as long as she did not drive with her 15cm heel Jimmy Choo or Louboutin shoes ! w/ smiles Jimmy

JazzyO · 10-31-2010, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Boxer

The fact that she is willing to even try is hugely impressive.

+1! Well done to her, and yourself for encouraging her.

Onno

212Export · 11-01-2010, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS

My statement was purely out of respect and awe, 212Export !!! Just as Boxer stated, I agree totally, ...but yet, for one minor point, that is as long as she did not drive with her 15cm heel Jimmy Choo or Louboutin shoes ! w/ smiles Jimmy

Jimmy, such shoes are forbidden on Kevlar ground...

!

Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS · 11-01-2010, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 212Export

Jimmy, such shoes are forbidden on Kevlar ground...

!

Pardon my skewed taste. Simple, sexist statement. w/ smiles Jimmy

212Export · 11-01-2010, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS

Pardon my skewed taste. Simple, sexist statement. w/ smiles Jimmy

I understand...as I said, they're forbidden (ONLY) on Kevlar ground

.

Boxer · 11-01-2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS

My statement was purely out of respect and awe, 212Export !!! Just as Boxer stated, I agree totally, ...but yet, for one minor point, that is as long as she did not drive with her 15cm heel Jimmy Choo or Louboutin shoes ! w/ smiles Jimmy

Watching a former Miss Thailand drive an Enzo (and she drove it well) in high heels was one of the more impressive feats of driving skill I have seen.

wetpet · 11-01-2010, 01:20 PM

Did someone say Ferrari and high heels? You knew i would come through!

Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS · 11-01-2010, 01:39 PM

Thanx, wetpet. Bonnie's got great attitude,...and that's the least of the pleasures on display. w/ smiles Jimmy

10-31-2010, 02:54 AM	#1
Boxer Owner Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK Ferrari Life Posts: 12,793	F40 Rear end stepping out Took the F40 out for a short run yesterday. Pavement was still wet from rain earlier in the day so I did take it pretty easy and carefully. Very glad I did. The second time I spooled up the turbos a bit (on a very straight clear road) the rear started sliding to the right. A quick correction caught it and ended the drama quickly. However it was a good reminder on just how much respect you always need to give a F40. Boxer Current: F40, F50, 612, 430 Scuderia Past: 360 Modena, 360 Challenge, 550, 575, 365BB, 512BB, 456 GT, F355 GTS, 365 GTB/4 Daytona, 308 GTB

10-31-2010, 06:15 AM	#4
Boxer Owner Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK Ferrari Life Posts: 12,793	Definitely a good reminder of how careful on needs to be this time of year. Boxer Current: F40, F50, 612, 430 Scuderia Past: 360 Modena, 360 Challenge, 550, 575, 365BB, 512BB, 456 GT, F355 GTS, 365 GTB/4 Daytona, 308 GTB

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10-31-2010, 03:31 AM	#2
JazzyO Owner Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Jersey, Channel Islands Ferrari Life Posts: 4,289	Asphalt is getting colder now, too, which makes a huge difference. I believe right now is the most dangerous time for supercar owners. We want to take in the last opportunity to drive our cars, but we easily forget it is not summer anymore. I've mentioned this before but it's a great example: an acquaintance drove his F50 last year. It was sunny but the road was damp. It was about 5 degrees C. He lost all grip driving onto an onramp at 40km/h. Car hit a tree and was a complete write-off. Wide, sticky tyres and cold, damp asphalt do not go together. Be careful out there!! Remember also that the weather might be warmer than the road - if it's been freezing at night the asphalt will take quite some time to warm up, and maybe very cold even though the air temperature is much warmer. I am driving to Italy in 2 weeks and I wanted to take the 550. But now I'm thinking I should really put some winter tyres on the 335i and take that. It just makes so much more sense (even apart from the legal implications of not having winter tyres in various European countries). Onno

10-31-2010, 03:34 AM	#3
Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS Owner Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yokohama & Tokyo, Japan Ferrari Life Posts: 3,551 Name: Jimmy Chen Shiba	Thinking of what may have happened, that would scare the lights out of me. Very fortunate, indeed and glad to know it was just a reminder for you, Boxer. w/ smiles Jimmy

10-31-2010, 07:05 AM	#5
wetpet Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chevy Chase, Md Ferrari Life Posts: 6,603 Name: Ed	we had a gt40 get sideways and go off the road with us once. same situation, super car, cold tires, too much right foot.

11-01-2010, 01:20 PM	#17
wetpet Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chevy Chase, Md Ferrari Life Posts: 6,603 Name: Ed	Did someone say Ferrari and high heels? You knew i would come through!

11-01-2010, 01:39 PM	#18
Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS Owner Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yokohama & Tokyo, Japan Ferrari Life Posts: 3,551 Name: Jimmy Chen Shiba	Thanx, wetpet. Bonnie's got great attitude,...and that's the least of the pleasures on display. w/ smiles Jimmy