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Quite some time since "D" has moved on streets. (4 weeks)
So after a 4 day absolute dry period without salting I started D up for a good run. Gaz pump on, a couple of strong pedal pushes and starting...engine came right away. Love the smell of the leather, the smell of the gaz being squized thru the carbs, the smell of the initial smoke out of the exhaust....parfum !
After idling for 5 minutes I started the first 10km on countryroads with max 2000 rpm's, the next 10km max. 2500 rpms and then 3500 rpm's for the next 10 km's (sounds a little bit like a bookholders mind but I'm very careful with outside temperatures around 4-5 C). Now finally warmed up water went to 70 C max and oil barely touched 60 C...! In the meantime I could lean backwards relaxed in those flat seats, enjoing the grumble of the V12 and enjoying the partially blue sky. After an additional 20km's I turned the direction back and decided to hit the autobahn.
There I pushed the engine in many short stints up to 5'500 rpm, but was unsuccessful in my attempt to raise oil temp. above 60 C. Uneventful drive home for another 50km for a total of 100km's. About the needed amount to warm up all parts. Nice cosy inside heating prividing that "classic" smell from the engine bay....ah what would life be without a F-car.
Back into the Garage, 10' cleaning....and rest.

[Boxer]

Great to hear that D is getting some winter exercize. Hope to do the same this weekend.

[tazandjan]

212- When I bought my Daytona in Houston, Texas and drove it home to Clovis, New Mexico, about 750 miles/1200 kms, I drove at a steady 75-80 mph (~125 kph) and actually thought the oil temperature gauge was inop. It was not until I got to West Texas with miles of open roads and no traffic and pushed the speed up to 100 mph+ a few times that the oil temperature came off the peg.

With 16 liters of oil and a really efficient oil cooler, it is really hard to get a Daytona's oil up to temperature. It only takes about 5 miles for the 575M, with 12 liters or so, to come up to temperature.

The Daytona was, and still is, a real continent eater.

Incidentally, the engines are self healing, too. On the first drive home after not having been driven for quite a while, the car used a few quarts of oil. On the return trip to finish the federalization, it used none.

[Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS]

212,...now, I would officially certify you as a genuine classic F nut when you said the inital exhaust smell was parfume !!! Congratulations.
w/ smiles Jimmy

[Barry]

Great write up 212. Your description of the smell and feel of a classic has inspired me to take the GT4 to my meeting, only 5km away, tomorrow. I was going to be boring and take the Beemer. Hope it stays dry tonight.

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Originally Posted by tazandjan

212- When I bought my Daytona in Houston, Texas and drove it home to Clovis, New Mexico, about 750 miles/1200 kms, I drove at a steady 75-80 mph (~125 kph) and actually thought the oil temperature gauge was inop. It was not until I got to West Texas with miles of open roads and no traffic and pushed the speed up to 100 mph+ a few times that the oil temperature came off the peg.

With 16 liters of oil and a really efficient oil cooler, it is really hard to get a Daytona's oil up to temperature. It only takes about 5 miles for the 575M, with 12 liters or so, to come up to temperature.

The Daytona was, and still is, a real continent eater.

Incidentally, the engines are self healing, too. On the first drive home after not having been driven for quite a while, the car used a few quarts of oil. On the return trip to finish the federalization, it used none.

Yes, you're right Terry. Only time temp comes up is in summer traffic jam. The F40 used about 10 minutes and was up to 90C.

@Barry: Yes take it out...go for it
@Jimmy: Thank you. I have to admit I'm always a little inclined to follow towards "parfumes"

[Barry]

Originally Posted by 212Export

@Barry: Yes take it out...go for it:thumbsup

woke up to white roads and ice. 645 time.

[Barry]

Originally Posted by 212Export

@Jimmy: Thank you. I have to admit I'm always a little inclined to follow towards "parfumes"

My favourite motoring parfum was always the 2 stroke motorbike smell.

[Vitalone]

Great report 212Export, thanks! Fully agree that the petrol smell from the carbs and the warm oil smells are perfum. Often after a good drive I take a smell of the engine by leaning close to the louvres of the engine cover of the Michalone to get a whiff of this heady scent. I first take a look around to make sure no one can see this insanity/appreciation.

[a1exander]

Originally Posted by Vitalone

Often after a good drive I take a smell of the engine by leaning close to the louvres of the engine cover of the Michalone to get a whiff of this heady scent. I first take a look around to make sure no one can see this insanity/appreciation.

I guess that would be one of the definitions of "petrolhead"
As to people looking at you ..........if you have it flaunt it.

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Originally Posted by Vitalone

Great report 212Export, thanks! Fully agree that the petrol smell from the carbs and the warm oil smells are perfum. Often after a good drive I take a smell of the engine by leaning close to the louvres of the engine cover of the Michalone to get a whiff of this heady scent. I first take a look around to make sure no one can see this insanity/appreciation.

Oh David, I guess we are all junkies....

[Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS]

Sounds to me like a bunch of pot heads ! w/ smiles Jimmy

[Barry]

Originally Posted by Vitalone

Often after a good drive I take a smell of the engine by leaning close to the louvres of the engine cover of the Michalone to get a whiff of this heady scent. I first take a look around to make sure no one can see this insanity/appreciation.

Be careful David. I've seen people certified for less.

I always wait till the car is in the garage before I do that.

[JazzyO]

Lovely report 212. Can't wait to take my babies out again. The weather was OK in Holland the past two weeks, but GTC in service, Boxer in England, and the 550 available but the lift to garage box on the first floor inoperable!!!

But the GTC was at least on of the cars displayed at my specialist's garage for his baby shower-slash-New Year's party. So at least I could smell the leather to help me fight off the blues for a while.

Back in Jersey, I'm even more frustrated, however. Perhaps I should take another flight to Exeter and go drive that Boxer!


Onno

[JazzyO]

BTW, 212, do you know what car you're taking to FLED6? If it's "D", I would really like to take a ride in it to see you drive it and experience what it feels like on the move. Last two times I saw the car we didn't have chance to do that but now Vitalone is here to take the wheel of the Boxer if I ride shotgun with you.


Onno

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Originally Posted by JazzyO

BTW, 212, do you know what car you're taking to FLED6? If it's "D", I would really like to take a ride in it to see you drive it and experience what it feels like on the move. Last two times I saw the car we didn't have chance to do that but now Vitalone is here to take the wheel of the Boxer if I ride shotgun with you.


Onno

Most likely will take "D". Fled will be a 5'000km excercise for us from Switzerland. I could not like it more. So far was always lucky with everything related to "D". Hopefully this time as well. You are invited to join anytime..will need to swap between passengers anyway in this case as either Marcel Massini or Jimmy will join me in "D".

[Boxer]

While I am a big fan of "D", it would be very cool to see "F" on the roads in the Highlands.

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Originally Posted by Boxer

While I am a big fan of "D", it would be very cool to see "F" on the roads in the Highlands.

You bring me further into conflict... !

However some facts:

1. Whole Fled 6 journey for me: 7 days (2 days Switzerland/London back/forth)
2. Chance of rain in England/Scotland over a 7 day period: 99%
3. Therefore Softtop consideration (50 miles/h speedmax): arriving at hotel 3 hours late everyday
4. Luggage space consideration for 2 persons for 7 days: ugly thought with "F"

Conclusions: I'm awaiting YOUR balanced recommendations ?

[JazzyO]

Hey, it would be very nice if Marcel joined us. Equally, of course, it would be great to get to know Jimmy in person. FLED6 is shaping up beautifully!

Although I would love to see "Da Fifty" in Scotland (even more so than "D"), I guess from a practical standpoint it will be difficult. But, at least you will have more luggage space than David and I! I think we will be washing our underwear in the sink every evening, and sharing a tooth brush....

FLED6 will be fantastic. I'm booking hotels this morning.


Onno

[212Export]

Originally Posted by JazzyO

Hey, it would be very nice if Marcel joined us. Equally, of course, it would be great to get to know Jimmy in person. FLED6 is shaping up beautifully!

Although I would love to see "Da Fifty" in Scotland (even more so than "D"), I guess from a practical standpoint it will be difficult. But, at least you will have more luggage space than David and I! I think we will be washing our underwear in the sink every evening, and sharing a tooth brush....

FLED6 will be fantastic. I'm booking hotels this morning.


Onno

Onno I have been considering to take only the little black with me...what ever that means