Daytona Spyder conversion rebuild

wheels1 · 12-05-2009, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS

Thank you, Grant. Same here, I tend not to overdo things, just keeping things as is and take care of problems as they come. Lovely interior. I would love to have reddish interior if the body were darker colors like yours. That is what I did to my Dino 246 L when I bought it. Body was black and redid interior from brown to red.
I am sure everyone would love to see more pics of your car(s), Grant. w/ smiles Jimmy

Hi Jimmy
This is the only part that i am keeping the same, the car is having a total rebuild and it will be like having a new car when finished.
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=183467
Grant

Barry · 12-05-2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by wheels1

Hi Jimmy
car looks great and you have the same dash as me,[ that's about 5 i have seen] i am keeping mine as is, as i like it, just putting the correct amount of mouse ear switch's for a Spyder in.
Grant

Looks lovely Grant. And is that the rear wheel of a 916 in the background? Couldn't work out the other bike - hazard a guess at a Harley??

Boxer · 12-05-2009, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheels1

Hi Jimmy
This is the only part that i am keeping the same, the car is having a total rebuild and it will be like having a new car when finished.
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=183467
Grant

I believe I have heard of you project. Very impressive. When do you expect it to be completed?

I am still having issues getting the brakes sorted on mine.

wheels1 · 12-06-2009, 02:15 PM

Thanks for the kind comments guys.
Jimmy i was hoping it would be finished this year, then spring next year, now summer next year, but i guess it will be done when its done, alot of the mechanical items have now been refurbished or new ones bought which should help move things along, and i have been chasing parts as best i can.

Barry, not sure which pic you mean, but no bike items in my garage any more. I married now!

Boxer
The guy doing the mechanical work on my car Rob is very good, he found a great company that has just [ go them back yesterday] finished rebuilding my brake calipers, brake servo and are just starting on my brake compensators. Boxer Was it you who was looking for brake compensators? I gave up as they seem very hard to come by, the company will resleve mine and the replace all the seals and plate them. i will me more than willing to put you in touch if you wish. [ is your car based in the UK]
Sorry for taking over your thread Jimmy
Al the best
Grant

Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS · 12-06-2009, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheels1

Thanks for the kind comments guys.
Jimmy i was hoping it would be finished this year, then spring next year, now summer next year, but i guess it will be done when its done, alot of the mechanical items have now been refurbished or new ones bought which should help move things along, and i have been chasing parts as best i can.

Barry, not sure which pic you mean, but no bike items in my garage any more. I married now!

Boxer
The guy doing the mechanical work on my car Rob is very good, he found a great company that has just [ go them back yesterday] finished rebuilding my brake calipers, brake servo and are just starting on my brake compensators. Boxer Was it you who was looking for brake compensators? I gave up as they seem very hard to come by, the company will resleve mine and the replace all the seals and plate them. i will me more than willing to put you in touch if you wish. [ is your car based in the UK]
Sorry for taking over your thread Jimmy
Al the best
Grant

Wheels1, I have been following your thread in FC, wondering how wonderful the outcome would be, despite the time, labor and money of course. Cannot even imagine what the final result would be, better than the new back then.
No problem with taking over, please post your pics, thread, whatever you have and everyone would love it here too. Thanx. w/ smiles Jimmy

Boxer · 12-06-2009, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheels1

Boxer
The guy doing the mechanical work on my car Rob is very good, he found a great company that has just [ go them back yesterday] finished rebuilding my brake calipers, brake servo and are just starting on my brake compensators. Boxer Was it you who was looking for brake compensators? I gave up as they seem very hard to come by, the company will resleve mine and the replace all the seals and plate them. i will me more than willing to put you in touch if you wish. [ is your car based in the UK]
Sorry for taking over your thread Jimmy
Al the best
Grant

Grant, Yes my Daytona is in the UK and I am still having a lot of trouble getting the brakes properly sorted. We did finally find someone who was able to sort the compensators (had to have new springs manufactured) but this has not total resolved the issues. Any help would be much appreciated.

wheels1 · 12-07-2009, 06:43 AM

Hi Boxer
the company that rebuilt the brakes is:-
Company: Classicar Automotive

Address: Unit A
Alderley Road
Chelford
Cheshire
SK11 9AP

Contact: Mr. Cherry

Telephone: 01625 860 910

Email: salesclassicbrakes.co.uk

Category: classic car brakes

:

I would give Rob a ring at Monza automotive 01162478707 and explain the problem to him and see what he can suggest.
If i can be any help please ask but i am no expert.
Grant
Ps pic of my car i took today

Boxer · 12-07-2009, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheels1

Hi Boxer
the company that rebuilt the brakes is:-
Company: Classicar Automotive

Address: Unit A
Alderley Road
Chelford
Cheshire
SK11 9AP

Contact: Mr. Cherry

Telephone: 01625 860 910

Email: salesclassicbrakes.co.uk

Category: classic car brakes

:

I would give Rob a ring at Monza automotive 01162478707 and explain the problem to him and see what he can suggest.
If i can be any help please ask but i am no expert.
Grant
Ps pic of my car i took today

Many many thanks. I talked to the mechanic today and they are still struggling to sort the brakes.

Your Daytona is looking great. Will it be ready to go for next Spring?

wheels1 · 12-07-2009, 02:26 PM

Spring, i think not but i can hope, more realistic would be summer, fingers crossed but even that might be optimistic as there is a lot to do.
Grant

Pete04222 · 12-07-2009, 07:49 PM

Those aren't the proper wheels for a Daytona are they?

LOL. Just kidding. The paint job looks fantastic. Can't wait to see more pictures of the car as it progresses. I can already tell the final result will be stunning.

Boxer · 12-07-2009, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheels1

Spring, i think not but i can hope, more realistic would be summer, fingers crossed but even that might be optimistic as there is a lot to do.
Grant

Good luck on the timing. Mine was supposted to have been finished in May 09

.

How often do you go down to see the progress?

Pete04222 · 12-07-2009, 09:30 PM

wheels1,
What are you putting on that car for wheels? Call me crazy but when I first saw the picture of that car in that colour being pushed out of the trailer my first thought was "wire wheels".

The 5-spoke design is great for the 308 but this Daytona to me is kind of a crossover car and the wire wheels would give it the look of a classic Ferrari racing motorcar and the sleek frontend provides the modern streamlined roadcar appearance. It is the colour that does it. If it were red I'd say slap on the 5 spokes and call it good. But for this one I'm just thinking wire wheels would just do it.

Feel free to call me an idiot.

wheels1 · 12-08-2009, 04:43 AM

Here's some info on my car.
After 20 year's of wanting and lusting and dreaming and never really thought I could actually owning one [ I did have an RS Daytona replica] I took the plunge last summer and bought a UK Daytona Spyder conversion done by EG Autokraft in 1985.

The car started life as a Celeste Blue car with a light blue interior and was first sold to the then young managing director of World Wide Artists It was then owned by a guy who painted in British Racing Green and changed the interior colour to red, then in 1985 it was converted to a GTS and a few years later bought by the Earl of Chistchester, he kept it for a few years and it was then sold at Christies in Monaco to an ex formula one driver who had the car for around 20 years and as far as I can tell was hardly used.

This is where I come in, when I went to look at the car it was showing only 16,000 miles but the history was not available to substantiate this, the interior was tired and the car was in an unloved state, the were small dents and scratches all over the place, the front of the sills had cracked and the underside was going rusty but did not appear to bad. [Thanks to Mark Shannon for the pic’s of my car from the early 80’s this really helped with the history file I have been accumulating]

So I took the plunge, and now came the hard bit of what to do should I go for a quick cover up respray knowing that the under side of the chassis would need treatment or should I go the full hog and risk the costs involved.
I took the car to my local Ferrari specialists who assured me that they could work on the car but when in took the owner 5 mins. to find the dip stick and he then told me he had never worked on a Daytona before I though it best to leave them out, I then took the car to a well know specialist south of London but I left feeling unsure.

I drove the car for about 1000 miles this year it was uncomfortable, the steering was heavy the hood was useless but it was one of the GREAT experiences in life you will never forget [ I even drove the 260 miles to show the guys in the Daytona Replica club my car, they are a great bunch of people who know a great deal about Daytona’s as most of them have built their own from EG Parts]

So after 4 months of looking I got a tip off about F-chat from a guy in the states who was selling some cams on e-bay. I then found Tim’s thread Daytona rebuild, and after reading that I new where I would like to take the car.
So with some help from Tim a contacted Mike Osgood [ 30 years as Ferrari Uk workshop manager, now semi retired and only take’s a few jobs a year, in between fishing] and after speaking to him and taking the car up to him to look at we decided that the job “had to be done properly” in Mikes words and we embarked on a quest for all the information we could find on the different structural changes between the GTB and GTS [ Thanks to Bill B for his tip off about his article in Forza magazine about this subject.

I was never happy about the proportions of the rear of the car [ just did not look quite right but could not say exactly what] and at Christmas while doing my usual cruse on E-bay looking for parts I spotted a genuine Spyder rear clip that had never been used for sale In the US. This was a lot of money for me but I thought that I would have a go for it knowing there was all the extras of getting it over here, the auction finished on Christmas day and mid day and would you believe it I was the only bidder at got it for $10 + a few 0’s Mike was as pleased as I was a was also watching on Christmas day. some one was looking after me that day!

Here's some more pic's from the restoration, the car has just left the paint shop after 2 years rebuilding :-
Grant

wheels1 · 12-08-2009, 05:00 AM

some more

wheels1 · 12-08-2009, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxer

Good luck on the timing. Mine was supposted to have been finished in May 09

.

How often do you go down to see the progress?

I have started a new thread so i don't mess Jimmys up too much.
I visit the car once a month or more if possible Boxer just to keep things going, Pete yes it will look like this one day, tan inside not blue though.
Grant

Pete04222 · 12-08-2009, 05:19 AM

Grant, That is the car!! That is what was in my mind when I saw the pic of yours rolled out of the trailer.

Can't wait to see the progress pics of your car!!!!

212Export · 12-08-2009, 05:22 AM

Fantastic picture ! Many thanks for sharing it. I liked the green colour very much. I think the car looks stunning with that green colour (and rare!)

wheels1 · 12-08-2009, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 212Export

Fantastic picture ! Many thanks for sharing it. I liked the green colour very much. I think the car looks stunning with that green colour (and rare!)

Sorry
It's blue now, I will post some more photo's later when i get home.
Grant

Pete04222 · 12-08-2009, 06:17 AM

I prefer the blue. But I thought you said your interior was tan?

Keep the pictures coming. This is the kind of shit we like.

212Export · 12-08-2009, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheels1

Sorry
It's blue now, I will post some more photo's later when i get home.
Grant

I know I have seen a picture of your Daytonas body on a roll wagon on another thread. That light blue colour (celeste?) looks very nice as well. But the dark green is a very unusual, very rare colour...and very beautiful.

12-07-2009, 06:43 AM	#7
wheels1 Owner Join Date: Jul 2009 Ferrari Life Posts: 160	Hi Boxer the company that rebuilt the brakes is:- Company: Classicar Automotive Address: Unit A Alderley Road Chelford Cheshire SK11 9AP Contact: Mr. Cherry Telephone: 01625 860 910 Email: salesclassicbrakes.co.uk Category: classic car brakes : I would give Rob a ring at Monza automotive 01162478707 and explain the problem to him and see what he can suggest. If i can be any help please ask but i am no expert. Grant Ps pic of my car i took today Attached Images

12-07-2009, 07:49 PM	#10
Pete04222 Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA & Singapore Ferrari Life Posts: 5,405	Those aren't the proper wheels for a Daytona are they? LOL. Just kidding. The paint job looks fantastic. Can't wait to see more pictures of the car as it progresses. I can already tell the final result will be stunning. Capt. Pete '79 308 GTS, '82 Jeep CJ7 Jamboree "Time is what prevents everything from happening all at once."

12-07-2009, 09:30 PM	#12
Pete04222 Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA & Singapore Ferrari Life Posts: 5,405	wheels1, What are you putting on that car for wheels? Call me crazy but when I first saw the picture of that car in that colour being pushed out of the trailer my first thought was "wire wheels". The 5-spoke design is great for the 308 but this Daytona to me is kind of a crossover car and the wire wheels would give it the look of a classic Ferrari racing motorcar and the sleek frontend provides the modern streamlined roadcar appearance. It is the colour that does it. If it were red I'd say slap on the 5 spokes and call it good. But for this one I'm just thinking wire wheels would just do it. Feel free to call me an idiot. Capt. Pete '79 308 GTS, '82 Jeep CJ7 Jamboree "Time is what prevents everything from happening all at once." Last edited by Pete04222; 12-07-2009 at 09:39 PM.

12-08-2009, 04:43 AM	#13
wheels1 Owner Join Date: Jul 2009 Ferrari Life Posts: 160	Daytona Spyder conversion rebuild Here's some info on my car. After 20 year's of wanting and lusting and dreaming and never really thought I could actually owning one [ I did have an RS Daytona replica] I took the plunge last summer and bought a UK Daytona Spyder conversion done by EG Autokraft in 1985. The car started life as a Celeste Blue car with a light blue interior and was first sold to the then young managing director of World Wide Artists It was then owned by a guy who painted in British Racing Green and changed the interior colour to red, then in 1985 it was converted to a GTS and a few years later bought by the Earl of Chistchester, he kept it for a few years and it was then sold at Christies in Monaco to an ex formula one driver who had the car for around 20 years and as far as I can tell was hardly used. This is where I come in, when I went to look at the car it was showing only 16,000 miles but the history was not available to substantiate this, the interior was tired and the car was in an unloved state, the were small dents and scratches all over the place, the front of the sills had cracked and the underside was going rusty but did not appear to bad. [Thanks to Mark Shannon for the pic’s of my car from the early 80’s this really helped with the history file I have been accumulating] So I took the plunge, and now came the hard bit of what to do should I go for a quick cover up respray knowing that the under side of the chassis would need treatment or should I go the full hog and risk the costs involved. I took the car to my local Ferrari specialists who assured me that they could work on the car but when in took the owner 5 mins. to find the dip stick and he then told me he had never worked on a Daytona before I though it best to leave them out, I then took the car to a well know specialist south of London but I left feeling unsure. I drove the car for about 1000 miles this year it was uncomfortable, the steering was heavy the hood was useless but it was one of the GREAT experiences in life you will never forget [ I even drove the 260 miles to show the guys in the Daytona Replica club my car, they are a great bunch of people who know a great deal about Daytona’s as most of them have built their own from EG Parts] So after 4 months of looking I got a tip off about F-chat from a guy in the states who was selling some cams on e-bay. I then found Tim’s thread Daytona rebuild, and after reading that I new where I would like to take the car. So with some help from Tim a contacted Mike Osgood [ 30 years as Ferrari Uk workshop manager, now semi retired and only take’s a few jobs a year, in between fishing] and after speaking to him and taking the car up to him to look at we decided that the job “had to be done properly” in Mikes words and we embarked on a quest for all the information we could find on the different structural changes between the GTB and GTS [ Thanks to Bill B for his tip off about his article in Forza magazine about this subject. I was never happy about the proportions of the rear of the car [ just did not look quite right but could not say exactly what] and at Christmas while doing my usual cruse on E-bay looking for parts I spotted a genuine Spyder rear clip that had never been used for sale In the US. This was a lot of money for me but I thought that I would have a go for it knowing there was all the extras of getting it over here, the auction finished on Christmas day and mid day and would you believe it I was the only bidder at got it for $10 + a few 0’s Mike was as pleased as I was a was also watching on Christmas day. some one was looking after me that day! Here's some more pic's from the restoration, the car has just left the paint shop after 2 years rebuilding :- Grant Attached Images

12-08-2009, 05:00 AM	#14
wheels1 Owner Join Date: Jul 2009 Ferrari Life Posts: 160	some more Attached Images

12-06-2009, 02:15 PM	#4
wheels1 Owner Join Date: Jul 2009 Ferrari Life Posts: 160	Thanks for the kind comments guys. Jimmy i was hoping it would be finished this year, then spring next year, now summer next year, but i guess it will be done when its done, alot of the mechanical items have now been refurbished or new ones bought which should help move things along, and i have been chasing parts as best i can. Barry, not sure which pic you mean, but no bike items in my garage any more. I married now! Boxer The guy doing the mechanical work on my car Rob is very good, he found a great company that has just [ go them back yesterday] finished rebuilding my brake calipers, brake servo and are just starting on my brake compensators. Boxer Was it you who was looking for brake compensators? I gave up as they seem very hard to come by, the company will resleve mine and the replace all the seals and plate them. i will me more than willing to put you in touch if you wish. [ is your car based in the UK] Sorry for taking over your thread Jimmy Al the best Grant

12-07-2009, 02:26 PM	#9
wheels1 Owner Join Date: Jul 2009 Ferrari Life Posts: 160	Spring, i think not but i can hope, more realistic would be summer, fingers crossed but even that might be optimistic as there is a lot to do. Grant

12-08-2009, 05:19 AM	#16
Pete04222 Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA & Singapore Ferrari Life Posts: 5,405	Grant, That is the car!! That is what was in my mind when I saw the pic of yours rolled out of the trailer. Can't wait to see the progress pics of your car!!!! Capt. Pete '79 308 GTS, '82 Jeep CJ7 Jamboree "Time is what prevents everything from happening all at once."

12-08-2009, 05:22 AM	#17
212Export Owner Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Europe Ferrari Life Posts: 2,288	Fantastic picture ! Many thanks for sharing it. I liked the green colour very much. I think the car looks stunning with that green colour (and rare!)

12-08-2009, 06:17 AM	#19
Pete04222 Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA & Singapore Ferrari Life Posts: 5,405	I prefer the blue. But I thought you said your interior was tan? Keep the pictures coming. This is the kind of shit we like. Capt. Pete '79 308 GTS, '82 Jeep CJ7 Jamboree "Time is what prevents everything from happening all at once."

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