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Old 07-13-2012, 10:37 PM   #1
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Noticed last night that the 430 Scuderia changes gear automatically in "sport" mode. Haven't tried yet but I am guessing it doesn't do that i "Race", am I correct? Funny that I haven't noticed this before. Are there more of these surprises ;-)


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Noticed last night that the 430 Scuderia changes gear automatically in "sport" mode. Haven't tried yet but I am guessing it doesn't do that i "Race", am I correct? Funny that I haven't noticed this before. Are there more of these surprises ;-)
You are correct, it changes up itself in Sport, but in Race it doesn't, suggest you also try it in CST off too, both are great fun.

Also, if you haven't tried this yet, I suggest you do as it will transforms your Scuds drive.....Put the manetino in Race and then press the suspension/dampers button on the console between the seats, this puts the Scuds damping in to a softer setting which is much more compliant & enjoyable - on track or road, this is the setting I use as my standard whether its wet or dry.

Anyone else got any other tips to share on the Scud?


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I found out when I was racing a Mercedes C63, I accidentally left it in Sport and it shifted 2ms before I pulled the lever so it shifted twice, I lost and had a lot of explaining to do to the delighted Merc owner :P.
It's nice however that they let us choose to be in full control or just let it shift by itself, mine is in Race now 98% of the time.

In race it hits the rev limiter when you are too late, which I display here

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Please keep the Scud (and all 430) tips coming. I've only had mine a week, so I'm still figuring things out.


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I found out when I was racing a Mercedes C63, I accidentally left it in Sport and it shifted 2ms before I pulled the lever so it shifted twice, I lost and had a lot of explaining to do to the delighted Merc owner :P.
It's nice however that they let us choose to be in full control or just let it shift by itself, mine is in Race now 98% of the time.

In race it hits the rev limiter when you are too late, which I display here

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It's summer but come winter Gents - be sure those Pirelli's are warm before having too much fun.

Agree with Peter the race and soft setting is the way to go - right until he mentions the CST off

Sometimes I mess with the settings - is it safe to change during driving?


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It's summer but come winter Gents - be sure those Pirelli's are warm before having too much fun.

Agree with Peter the race and soft setting is the way to go - right until he mentions the CST off

Sometimes I mess with the settings - is it safe to change during driving?

Doug, the manetino switch is straight out of Ferrari's F1 technology so yes the settings can be changed at anytime, whether on a straight or going through mid-bend....just be mindful that changing between Sport and Race and Race and CST off will result in you having a higher degree of control over the cars handling as the electronic nannying systems will relax to enable you to enjoy greater freedom & control.

Also CST off is a terrific setting on a Scud/16M as it shuts the nannying off and makes its handling more predictable, just like an old school racing car. Highly recommend you try it for yourself over some decent mileage/time after you have got the hang of the differences between Sport and Race and feel you are much more comfortable using Race mode as its the next step to truly appreciating and enjoying your 16M.

To discover the differences between all of the manetino settings I suggest you travel the same piece of road back to back using each of the settings. Its important to travel at the same speeds each time and approach the bends same and if you have bonded and are at one with the car you will feel all of the subtle differences between each of the manetino's settings and you will end up not being intimidated in any way when you opt select CST off, as this is one seriously well planted and sorted Supercar....give that a try and see how you get on as Im absolutely certain that by doing this simple exercise will enable you to trust and bond with your 16M at a much higher level

Let me know how it goes


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Michael Schumacher helped develop the Scuderia/16M handling options and the soft shock setting in Race has been referred to as the Schumacher Option, since he is the one who pushed to have it included. That option survived on the later cars with DCT, too. Prevents the car from being oversprung and under-damped.


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Michael Schumacher helped develop the Scuderia/16M handling options and the soft shock setting in Race has been referred to as the Schumacher Option, since he is the one who pushed to have it included. That option survived on the later cars with DCT, too. Prevents the car from being oversprung and under-damped.
The Schumacher connection seems a bit like marketing to me. Its such an obvious option I'm surprised it wasn't always a standard feature, many magazines including Evo complained about this missing button for years.

People have retro fitted a button and a couple of wires to control this. Eric has posted about how to accomplish this before. Not actually that hard to retrofit.
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Trev- Does not involve rocket science, but a good thing to have. Ferrari using Schumi for marketing? Say it is not so.


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To discover the differences between all of the manetino settings I suggest you travel the same piece of road back to back using each of the settings. Its important to travel at the same speeds each time and approach the bends same and if you have bonded and are at one with the car you will feel all of the subtle differences between each of the manetino's settings and you will end up not being intimidated in any way when you opt select CST off, as this is one seriously well
Great advise!
Many factors changes when driving same road with similar speed. It's unlike just change in shifting keeping the car in lower gear.

To be a beginner statement : It feels like driving a higher cylinder car with same body.


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Red line won't damage the engine as the fuel cut system comes in. am I right?
cuz I see some videos of drifting and most of the time the rpm is near or approaches the red area.

How dangerous can this be?


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Doug, the manetino switch is straight out of Ferrari's F1 technology so yes the settings can be changed at anytime, whether on a straight or going through mid-bend....just be mindful that changing between Sport and Race and Race and CST off will result in you having a higher degree of control over the cars handling as the electronic nannying systems will relax to enable you to enjoy greater freedom & control.

Also CST off is a terrific setting on a Scud/16M as it shuts the nannying off and makes its handling more predictable, just like an old school racing car. Highly recommend you try it for yourself over some decent mileage/time after you have got the hang of the differences between Sport and Race and feel you are much more comfortable using Race mode as its the next step to truly appreciating and enjoying your 16M.

To discover the differences between all of the manetino settings I suggest you travel the same piece of road back to back using each of the settings. Its important to travel at the same speeds each time and approach the bends same and if you have bonded and are at one with the car you will feel all of the subtle differences between each of the manetino's settings and you will end up not being intimidated in any way when you opt select CST off, as this is one seriously well planted and sorted Supercar....give that a try and see how you get on as Im absolutely certain that by doing this simple exercise will enable you to trust and bond with your 16M at a much higher level

Let me know how it goes
OK - so I met the wife and friends for lunch today!

Figured then was as good as time as any - so I switched off the CST.

Let her rip - the car and I smiled from ear to ear and exited the lost sideways

Felt damn good - wife calls me and while she is laughing the manager wanted to know if anyone knew the owner of the car that terrified the restaurant.

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OK - so I met the wife and friends for lunch today!

Figured then was as good as time as any - so I switched off the CST.

Let her rip - the car and I smiled from ear to ear and exited the lost sideways

Felt damn good - wife calls me and while she is laughing the manager wanted to know if anyone knew the owner of the car that terrified the restaurant.

whoooppsieee
That was fun.
HEEEEEH It's 3AM here otherwise I was scratching the asphalts now...


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OK - so I met the wife and friends for lunch today!

Figured then was as good as time as any - so I switched off the CST.

Let her rip - the car and I smiled from ear to ear and exited the lost sideways

Felt damn good - wife calls me and while she is laughing the manager wanted to know if anyone knew the owner of the car that terrified the restaurant.

whoooppsieee

LOL, I've now got a grin ear to ear just thinking about what you did!

Its important that you keep up the excellent work my friend, as practice makes perfect, albeit you may want to practice in a slightly less conspicuous place next time ha ha!


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Doug- Sometimes it is more fun not to be a model citizen. Sounds like you got to practice that and enjoyed it thoroughly.

Did your wife rat you out? If not, time for a new trinket for her.


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I run mine in race with the soft damper setting about 98% of the time. It only goes into sport if the road is quite wet.


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LOL, I've now got a grin ear to ear just thinking about what you did!

Its important that you keep up the excellent work my friend, as practice makes perfect, albeit you may want to practice in a slightly less conspicuous place next time ha ha!
Count on it

I have a lot of latent hostilities - exiting the restaurant and entering the highway was the best feeling I have had in quite some time ... smiled from ear to ear


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Doug- Sometimes it is more fun not to be a model citizen. Sounds like you got to practice that and enjoyed it thoroughly.

Did your wife rat you out? If not, time for a new trinket for her.
You got that right Terry.

She loved it!

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