[StefVan]

Originally Posted by Gerdi

With the Texa tool you CAN do the PIS setting.

OK young poster, I expect from you to post here a video where you set the PIS and bleed the F1 with the Texa Navigator TXT on a F360/F430. Then, you can start saying what I know and what I don't...

PS : if the Texa was able to replace the SD2/3 for 3500Euros, I wouldn't be the only to know this

[johan6504]

This looks like an interesting discussion, looking forward to see some facts ;-)

[Gerdi]

@SteVan
I would like to create a video but I unfortunately I don't have the requirements.
I have a Navigator TXT but no F430.
So you have a Navigator TXT and a F430.
Connect it to the car and choose the system "Transmission/Clutch" and go to the adjustment page. On this page you will find the option "PIS (set start slipping position)".
Try this option and tell us if it works....
Oh, please tell me the sofware Version from Texa which you did used.

Thanks

[eric355]

Originally Posted by johan6504

This looks like an interesting discussion, looking forward to see some facts ;-)

Yes Johan, indeed, I am on it also
Could be very interesting ... Hope we have something there!

[johan6504]

Sounds promising, I guess we will know pretty soon :-)

[StefVan]

Originally Posted by Gerdi

I would like to create a video but I unfortunately I don't have the requirements.
I have a Navigator TXT but no F430.
So you have a Navigator TXT and a F430.
Connect it to the car and choose the system "Transmission/Clutch" and go to the adjustment page. On this page you will find the option "PIS (set start slipping position)".
Try this option and tell us if it works....
Oh, please tell me the sofware Version from Texa which you did used.

Thanks

It's a pity you have Navigator TXT but no cars to test it on.


Once again, I never said that Texa is bad and I consider it to be a very good universal diagnosis tool, worth the price. The scope option is also a very good tool. But it just doesn't replace the SD3 or Leonardo and it has never be clear to me what precisely is supported by the TXT. That's all.

Also, what you forgot to say is that the specific Ferrari functionalities are only available in the SuperCar version. This version requires an extra license activation which is, if I remember well, a good extra 1000Euros.

When I tested the TXT, version 34, only some parts of the 360 were supported as you can see in this picture. No doubt, this may have evolved in the latest version available.




But even if screenshots may be nice, I want to see for real the entire procedures of :

PIS setting
F1 actuator centering
F1 engagement/selection actuator air bleeding
F1 gear engagement
Clutch setting 0.01 – 0.98
Clutch bleeding
E-Diff diagnosis cycle (pressure discharge)
Steering wheel angle calibration
ESP primary/pilot valve control
Wheel outlet valves control
Brake system breath
Injectors control
Camshaft intake valves checks
Canister purge valve
Fuel pump relays actuation
RPM test
Lamba diagnostics (warming, deactivation etc)
AC checks (long list)
Suspension valves activations
Dashboard (many diagnosis checks)


And that’s my minimum top 20 list. If this is supported by the latest version, that would be real good start. E.g. : even if setting the PIS is supported, without the clutch setting, it’s worthless.


But as you said, I have no clue of what I’m talking about here I leave it up to you to give some concrete feedback on the above specs. Convince me!

[Gerdi]

Also, what you forgot to say is that the specific Ferrari functionalities are only available in the SuperCar version. This version requires an extra license activation which is, if I remember well, a good extra 1000Euros.

That's right but in the price of 3500€ the supercar license is included.

When I tested the TXT, version 34, only some parts of the 360 were supported as you can see in this picture. No doubt, this may have evolved in the latest version available.

That's also right. But software version 34 is 3 years old. Now version 45 is availible.

But even if screenshots may be nice, I want to see for real the entire procedures of :

PIS setting
F1 actuator centering
F1 engagement/selection actuator air bleeding
F1 gear engagement
Clutch setting 0.01 – 0.98
Clutch bleeding
E-Diff diagnosis cycle (pressure discharge)
Steering wheel angle calibration
ESP primary/pilot valve control
Wheel outlet valves control
Brake system breath
Injectors control
Camshaft intake valves checks
Canister purge valve
Fuel pump relays actuation
RPM test
Lamba diagnostics (warming, deactivation etc)
AC checks (long list)
Suspension valves activations
Dashboard (many diagnosis checks)

Sorry, but in this time I have no F430 or 360 here, only a 355. I don't know in which time I will get one. Try to get the Navigator again and test it again with the new IDC4 software version 45. You will see, that your top list will work.

The Texa tool is a universal tool, that's right. But the diagnosis intensity is very high compared to other tools. For example on the Porsche cars 996 and 997 are included all configuration/setting functions like on the Porsche Piwis.

Here an extract of the new application list:

[StefVan]

Thanks for this update. The list of the supported ECU's looks indeed very promising. It's good to know also that the SuperCar license is now integrated in the base package.

Did yourself had the chance in the past to test the 45 on a 360/430? Do you know anyone who did?

I will try to get the lastest version but I have a manual F430 and I'm not in a mood to test something new on a friends F1 car...

What do they mean by "Automatic transmission Marelli - clutchless manual transmission"?

Keep going I want to know more!

[tazandjan]

Stef- What they probably mean is "clutch pedal-less transmission"

System is sounding interesting. Too bad their web site does not tell you much.

[Gerdi]

Send me your email adress via PM. So I can send you the application list if you want

[StefVan]

PM sent

[tazandjan]

Gerdi- Sent yesterday, have not seen anything yet.

[Gerdi]

It's good to know also that the SuperCar license is now integrated in the base package.

Sorry, was my fault. The SuperCar license is not integrated in the base package. I talked from Navigator TXC. This hardware is in the same case as the Navigator TXT, but it is only for car diagnosis. So it's cheaper. I can get this interface with license for about 3500€.
The Navigator TXT you can use for all vehicles like bikes, trucks, bus.....
but you need the correct software. So this interface is more expensive (3500-4000€) and you have to buy also the extra license for SuperCar.
This device is good, if you want to do also diagnosis on bikes or so on.
If you do only cars, the Navigator TXC is good enough.

Yes I did allready the tests on a F360 and F430 and I as I told you it works.
The best option is, to try it by yourself.