[netman]

I am considering Titanium wheel bolts for my 360 with 5 spoke 430 rims. Thoughts?

[mk e]

Originally Posted by netman

I am considering Titanium wheel bolts for my 360 with 5 spoke 430 rims. Thoughts?

I didn't realize anyone was selling Ti wheel bolts.

My thought is that while clearly in the "way cool" category, you probably don't want them. Ti is strong but much softer then steel so the bolts would be much more delicate so they would be easily damaged which would lead to major damage to your car if not caught in time. Weight that against the very very small (as in unmeasureable) performance gain they would give you and I don't see them as worth the money or risk....but they sound very cool.

[Granucci]

+1 : Stick with steel. Ti may be cool but not a good idea and in this case may be dangerous. Somethings are best designed as is.

[netman]

Thanks for the input. The bolts are being offered on ferrarichat.com in the ads section

[notfastenough]

The Ti bolts are originally equipped on Scuds, 16M's, and 360CS's. Have not heard of any of those applications shearing bolts, and can not find any reason against using them. The only time I might be weary would be if put onto a circut using slicks, perhaps. GL with your decision either way!

[mk e]

Originally Posted by notfastenough

The Ti bolts are originally equipped on Scuds, 16M's, and 360CS's. Have not heard of any of those applications shearing bolts, and can not find any reason against using them. The only time I might be weary would be if put onto a circut using slicks, perhaps. GL with your decision either way!

I wouldn't be afraid of shearing them, just of them getting buggered with normal street car handling...Ti galls so easily. That would be my main concern.

[wetpet]

am i right in believing the advantage is to slightly reduce unsprung weight? how much would you really get and how much value?

[Granucci]

I would expect the weight to be only a factor in F1.

Not sure one gains much in unsprung weight for street cars or light racing use.

[netman]

So here's the latest. I bought the Scud wheel bolts. I have heard all of your points of view, for and against. I thank you all for your input. I figured I give them a try as I like the look and think they will look great with the CF or black wheel caps. This is still another decission to make. My question now is the torque. Do I torque these the same as the 360 steel wheel bolts?

[mk e]

Originally Posted by netman

So here's the latest. I bought the Scud wheel bolts. I have heard all of your points of view, for and against. I thank you all for your input. I figured I give them a try as I like the look and think they will look great with the CF or black wheel caps. This is still another decission to make. My question now is the torque. Do I torque these the same as the 360 steel wheel bolts?

Good question. The shortest answer is that you should the directions that came with them or ask the supply for directions in non were supplied with the bolts. If the supplier can not help you, ask a ferrari dealer for the Scud instructions.

As I said earlier, Ti is much softer than steel and generally requires special care such as a specific lubricant or torque settings. Also confirm the bolts have the same thread engagement depth as on the Scud.

[netman]

Mike;

Thanks for the information.

[Granucci]

QUESTION: I am assuming there are different 'models'/degrees of Ti as there are steel in composition. Wouldn't that be a factor also, or are these 'pure' Ti and not an alloy?

[mk e]

Originally Posted by Granucci

QUESTION: I am assuming there are different 'models'/degrees of Ti as there are steel in composition. Wouldn't that be a factor also, or are these 'pure' Ti and not an alloy?

They would be an alloy. There are lots of alloys, Ti6Al4V is the more common but there are lot of other good choices.