Goodbye 612, hello F430B redux...

colonel1961 · 03-07-2010, 04:55 AM

Or to keep with the spate of Latin quotes: Alea iacta est.

Simply couldn't abide by the electronical issues with the 612: would not start twice, had phantom seat heater readings about every other drive, and the last straw was a 'transmission failure' light that came on during a drive.

My dealer was kind enough to make an excellent trade for a mint '06 F430B F1 with 5,700 miles - Nero over cuoio Daytonas with nero inserts. Competition wheels, rossa calipers, with brand new Bridgestones. Some carbon fiber accents. All books and records. Tubi. No stories or excuses.

Daughters have failed to send me the photos they took, but after golf today, I will make sure to bug them so that I can post a few. And while I learned to love and appreciate the idea of the front/mid V-12, I have no qualms about returning to the rear/mid V-8 realm...

GP612 · 03-07-2010, 06:16 AM

Re your 612, Did the seat heater lights and transmission failure readings come on after the battery was replaced as well? I ask because my 612 is in the shop right now for the same reasons, plus the F1's clutch seems to be slipping already (but then my car only has 7000 kms on it!)

IPF · 03-07-2010, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colonel1961

And while I learned to love and appreciate the idea of the front/mid V-12, I have no qualms about returning to the rear/mid V-8 realm...

Good for you, am sure you will NOT regret!

Barry · 03-07-2010, 08:21 AM

Another twist in the tale Col.!!!

Looks like the heart is winning out in the end (as it should!).

Look forward to seeing the pics.... best of luck with your new toy.

colonel1961 · 03-07-2010, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GP612

Re your 612, Did the seat heater lights and transmission failure readings come on after the battery was replaced as well? I ask because my 612 is in the shop right now for the same reasons, plus the F1's clutch seems to be slipping already (but then my car only has 7000 kms on it!)

The seat lights ghosted before and after - the transmission after. Good luck!

Gcalo · 03-07-2010, 09:02 AM

Wow what an episode!

Makes a Model A Ford look good. Always starts;always runs!

No error messages.

When are car manufacturers going to learn that complicated is not good?

colonel1961 · 03-07-2010, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gcalo

Wow what an episode!

Makes a Model A Ford look good. Always starts;always runs!

No error messages.

When are car manufacturers going to learn that complicated is not good?

I agree - although not that the 430 is exactly simple in an absolute sense, although by comparison. I cannot even digest the manual!

colonel1961 · 03-07-2010, 11:40 AM

The swap!

colonel1961 · 03-07-2010, 11:43 AM

Tres mas...

Gcalo · 03-07-2010, 12:22 PM

That's a good looking car. Nice in black. Wheels are outstanding.

I am thinking of those for mine.

Too bad the 612 was such a problem. Are you sure it was not a bad battery? Bad batteries account for a ton of electrical errors and problems.

The 430 manual should not be that different from a 360.

Boxer · 03-07-2010, 01:01 PM

Interesting twist but not to surprising.

colonel1961 · 03-07-2010, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gcalo

That's a good looking car. Nice in black. Wheels are outstanding.

I am thinking of those for mine.

Too bad the 612 was such a problem. Are you sure it was not a bad battery? Bad batteries account for a ton of electrical errors and problems.

The 430 manual should not be that different from a 360.

That was the initial call: bad battery. Swapped out and the problems kept coming....

colonel1961 · 03-07-2010, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxer

Interesting twist but not to surprising.

I know you mean that in the kindest way...

colonel1961 · 03-07-2010, 05:45 PM

Another one or two...

Gcalo · 03-07-2010, 05:48 PM

You did the right thing then.

colonel1961 · 03-07-2010, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gcalo

You did the right thing then.

Thanks - I am very pleased with the final result. If I start posting about selling/trading this one in the next six month, someone - please - call me out!!

Gcalo · 03-07-2010, 06:28 PM

You won't. You now have a more engaging more supple car.

You will enjoy as I have enjoyed my 360.

Baller · 03-07-2010, 07:06 PM

God you live in the fast lane man. On the 458 waiting list swapping out ferraris left and right. Once again another beautiful car, and as always I'm jealous.

Boxer · 03-07-2010, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colonel1961

I know you mean that in the kindest way...

I do, reading your comments, the 612 seemed like an arranged marriage where you kept trying to smile where the 430 was always more of a love affair.

Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS · 03-08-2010, 02:34 AM

Yet another win for passion over logic. But then, duration is of another matter. Waiting for more pics. w/ smiles Jimmy

03-07-2010, 04:55 AM	#1
colonel1961 Owner Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: North Alabama Ferrari Life Posts: 995 Name: Paul	Goodbye 612, hello F430B redux... Or to keep with the spate of Latin quotes: Alea iacta est. Simply couldn't abide by the electronical issues with the 612: would not start twice, had phantom seat heater readings about every other drive, and the last straw was a 'transmission failure' light that came on during a drive. My dealer was kind enough to make an excellent trade for a mint '06 F430B F1 with 5,700 miles - Nero over cuoio Daytonas with nero inserts. Competition wheels, rossa calipers, with brand new Bridgestones. Some carbon fiber accents. All books and records. Tubi. No stories or excuses. Daughters have failed to send me the photos they took, but after golf today, I will make sure to bug them so that I can post a few. And while I learned to love and appreciate the idea of the front/mid V-12, I have no qualms about returning to the rear/mid V-8 realm... Colonel1961 - - - - - - - - Current: 599 GTB Fiorano F1 Former: 308 GTS QV; F355B; 360 Modena Spider F1; F430 F1 (2); 612 Scaglietti F1; 550 Maranello Last edited by colonel1961; 03-07-2010 at 05:11 AM.

03-07-2010, 08:21 AM	#4
Barry Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Europe Ferrari Life Posts: 3,256	Another twist in the tale Col.!!! Looks like the heart is winning out in the end (as it should!). Look forward to seeing the pics.... best of luck with your new toy. Barry Ferrari's: 360 Modena F1, 308 GT4 Other Italians: Ducati 916, Ducati 848 DD's: RR Sport, BMW 645ci, BMW 1200GS Adv.

03-07-2010, 11:40 AM	#8
colonel1961 Owner Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: North Alabama Ferrari Life Posts: 995 Name: Paul	A few pics... The swap! Attached Images Colonel1961 - - - - - - - - Current: 599 GTB Fiorano F1 Former: 308 GTS QV; F355B; 360 Modena Spider F1; F430 F1 (2); 612 Scaglietti F1; 550 Maranello

03-07-2010, 11:43 AM	#9
colonel1961 Owner Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: North Alabama Ferrari Life Posts: 995 Name: Paul	A few more... Tres mas... Attached Images Colonel1961 - - - - - - - - Current: 599 GTB Fiorano F1 Former: 308 GTS QV; F355B; 360 Modena Spider F1; F430 F1 (2); 612 Scaglietti F1; 550 Maranello

03-07-2010, 01:01 PM	#11
Boxer Owner Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK Ferrari Life Posts: 12,792	Interesting twist but not to surprising. Boxer Current: F40, F50, 612, 430 Scuderia Past: 360 Modena, 360 Challenge, 550, 575, 365BB, 512BB, 456 GT, F355 GTS, 365 GTB/4 Daytona, 308 GTB

03-07-2010, 06:16 AM	#2
GP612 Owner Join Date: Jan 2010 Ferrari Life Posts: 5	Re your 612, Did the seat heater lights and transmission failure readings come on after the battery was replaced as well? I ask because my 612 is in the shop right now for the same reasons, plus the F1's clutch seems to be slipping already (but then my car only has 7000 kms on it!)

03-07-2010, 09:02 AM	#6
Gcalo Owner Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Ramon, Calif Ferrari Life Posts: 3,613	Wow what an episode! Makes a Model A Ford look good. Always starts;always runs! No error messages. When are car manufacturers going to learn that complicated is not good?

03-07-2010, 12:22 PM	#10
Gcalo Owner Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Ramon, Calif Ferrari Life Posts: 3,613	That's a good looking car. Nice in black. Wheels are outstanding. I am thinking of those for mine. Too bad the 612 was such a problem. Are you sure it was not a bad battery? Bad batteries account for a ton of electrical errors and problems. The 430 manual should not be that different from a 360.

03-07-2010, 05:45 PM	#14
colonel1961 Owner Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: North Alabama Ferrari Life Posts: 995 Name: Paul	Another one or two... Attached Images Colonel1961 - - - - - - - - Current: 599 GTB Fiorano F1 Former: 308 GTS QV; F355B; 360 Modena Spider F1; F430 F1 (2); 612 Scaglietti F1; 550 Maranello

03-07-2010, 05:48 PM	#15
Gcalo Owner Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Ramon, Calif Ferrari Life Posts: 3,613	You did the right thing then.

03-07-2010, 06:28 PM	#17
Gcalo Owner Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Ramon, Calif Ferrari Life Posts: 3,613	You won't. You now have a more engaging more supple car. You will enjoy as I have enjoyed my 360.

03-07-2010, 07:06 PM	#18
Baller Join Date: Oct 2009 Ferrari Life Posts: 160	God you live in the fast lane man. On the 458 waiting list swapping out ferraris left and right. Once again another beautiful car, and as always I'm jealous.

03-08-2010, 02:34 AM	#20
Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS Owner Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yokohama & Tokyo, Japan Ferrari Life Posts: 3,549 Name: Jimmy Chen Shiba	Yet another win for passion over logic. But then, duration is of another matter. Waiting for more pics. w/ smiles Jimmy

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