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| Owner Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Belgium
Ferrari Life Posts: 9
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Hi fellow car lovers, I’m new to this kind of forums, so I hope I do it well from the first time. Let’s introduce myself. But being a journalist, I’m used to writing about everything, except myself… ![]() Living in quite densely populated Belgium my whole life, but fortunate enough to see quite a bit of the world thanks to my job. Love to travel, love to visit a new country, love to meet new people. Some 30 years ago, in 1977, I obtained my drivers license at the age of 18 (the minimum age in Belgium to get it). So that period and the early eighties were quite decisive in creating my love for classic cars. So I’m happy I finally can afford some of the most beautiful designed V8 powered ‘dream cars’ from those days: a Mercedes 350 SL (1972), a Porsche 928 (1979) and -since a few weeks- the most gorgeous of all, a Ferrari 308 GTS QV (1984). Still waiting for the official European homologation documents from Maranello before I can actually drive it. But with 15 cm (6 inches) of snow outside right now, that wouldn’t be very wise to do, I guess. I bought the car recently from a nice guy in Fallbrook, CA, who owned the car for less than two years and had it shipped to Antwerp. It is a Euro-spec car and looks very nice (except for the slick-like TRX tires). No unpleasant surprises so far. Unfortunately the Fallbrook guy had little or no information at all about the history of this car. So I hope somebody on this forum recognizes this particular car and can bring me in contact with the previous owner(s). This is what I know: Ferrari 308 GTI QV (1984) Vin: ZFFLA13S000048119 Color: ROSSO CORSA FER 300/6, tan interior Odometer: 23.400 miles (but maybe the odometer was changed in the past) Car came with pictures of timing belt change (± 500 miles ago) Remarkable detail: two little spy mirrors glued to the both mirrors Found some pictures of 'my' car on carpictures.com (from 2007?) http://www.carpictures.com/vehicle/05HM0003516276.html It was sold by Precious Metals San Diego, California, U.S.A. http://www.pmautos.com So if anybody out there recognizes this car, I’d love to dig in deeper into it’s history. Thanks [IMG]file:///Users/jorisvanroy/Library/Caches/TemporaryItems/moz-screenshot.png[/IMG] |
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| | #2 |
| Owner Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Ramon, Calif
Ferrari Life Posts: 3,613
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Nice car and welcome to the forum. I know who Precious Metals is. The owner of the company is a surgeon! It's his hobby business in San Diego. Why was the car sent from California sent to Antwerp? What additional info do you need? |
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| Owner Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Belgium
Ferrari Life Posts: 9
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Hi Gcalo, Car was sent to Antwerp, because that's the harbor close to where I live. What I like to find out is who owned this car before, reconstruct the history of this car. When was it first imported into the VS? Who can tell me what was changed to the car to meet regulations in California? | |
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| | #4 |
| Owner Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Ramon, Calif
Ferrari Life Posts: 3,613
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The best one to gve you the history I can think of would be Gerald Rousch at the Ferrari Market Letter in Atlanta, GA. He maintains an accurate database of all VIN's. It does not appear to be a Euro model from first glance but the VIN would tell more. You can decode the VIN here: http://www.red-headed.com/index2.html If a US model there would be no mods to make it a US car. Check these two and if you need help with info from Precious Metals I will see what I can do. I know the Dr. who owns the firm. |
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| | #5 |
| Owner Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Netherlands
Ferrari Life Posts: 290
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Hi and welcome, Nice car! Judging by the VIN it is Euro and likely produced for the Swiss/Swedish market originally. Probably federalised to some extent later, hence the mile odometer, bumpers, etc. Good suggestion to mail the guys at FML, esp. for the US side of things. For the European market, you might try sending an e-mail to Lars Theunissen (Theunissen-Muenchen@t-online.de), a Dutch guy based in Munich who is part of a world-wide Telaio network, who keep track of Ferrari's (VINs), owners, and plates. He'll be happy to put your car in his database (if it isn't already in there) and try and supply you with any info already gathered by his network in the car's earlier life (pre US). Enjoy the Ferrari and the life that goes with it! Irvin A horse is a horse, of course, of course, and no one can talk to a horse of course. That is, of course, unless the horse is the famous Mister F. |
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| Owner Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Ramon, Calif
Ferrari Life Posts: 3,613
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I just went through the original listing and it does state it is a Euro model! So it is hard to know if anything was done to it as far as smog etc. It apparently was never titled in CA and if so there would be no need for smog. It reads Arizona title. "Red with Tan interior, 22,900 miles, beautiful small European bumpers with factory integrated fog lights, US legal on AZ. Title, excellent overall condition but could stand new tires and major service, owners manual tools and jack. S/N 48119 (Euro Prod)". So I would assume nothing has been done as far as smog. It's now a Euro, Euro model!!! |
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| | #7 |
| Owner Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: East Coast USA
Ferrari Life Posts: 1,909
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I have no knowledge of the car, but agree that FML here in US might. You might also check with www.carfax.com for US service and records history. Beautiful car! Welcome to FL and congratulations on realizing your dream. 360 & TR Cars & Coffee at CITY DOCK ANNAPOLIS 9am-noon Every Sunday F-CHAT Exile now living the Ferrari Life. |
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| | #8 |
| Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006
Ferrari Life Posts: 234
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Just to confirm that indeed the VIN indicates it was originally Swiss spec (eighth character of the VIN is an S rather than a B which would be a Euro car). Obviously Switzerland is in Europe but there were some differences in their regulations at the time. Nowadays they follow Euorpean Union legislation and so get standard Euro-spec cars. As to the history of this particular car, I can only add that it was offered for sale by John N Miller of California in Ferrari Market Letter 29 November 2003. Jonathan |
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| | #9 |
| Owner Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yokohama & Tokyo, Japan
Ferrari Life Posts: 3,547
Name: Jimmy Chen Shiba
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Welcome to FL, Jovry. Beautiful car, excellent taste. I understand there's many petrolheads in Belgium. Looking forward to your inputs and pics. w/ smiles Jimmy
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| | #10 |
| Owner Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Regina, Canada
Ferrari Life Posts: 2,064
Name: Roberto Giannini
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Always glad to see new faces, and gorgeous car by the way.
Night life........ain't a good life........but it's my life -- Willy Nelson |
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| | #11 |
| Owner Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Belgium
Ferrari Life Posts: 9
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Thank you all for the warm welcome! I’m going to contact the guys in Atlanta and Lars Theunissen in Germany to see if they have more on this car. As for the modifications on the car to ‘Americanize’ it, I noticed that the side markers have been wired to work with the headlights. In Europe they have to work in conjunction with the blinkers, so I’ll have to find out where to change that. Any suggestions? |
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| | #12 |
| Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: far and away
Ferrari Life Posts: 5,047
| Guide to the Galaxy: Don't Panic Rik -- LAH ! Current: 1990 Mondial T Cabriolet : Red/Tan 1995 456 GT 2+2 : Roso Metalizzato [Fer 311/C] & Tan |
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| | #13 |
| Owner Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK
Ferrari Life Posts: 12,781
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Dick Merrit at the DOT in Washington DC would be able to tell you when and where it was imported into the us to/from. http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/testin...corgchart.html Boxer Current: F40, F50, 612, 430 Scuderia Past: 360 Modena, 360 Challenge, 550, 575, 365BB, 512BB, 456 GT, F355 GTS, 365 GTB/4 Daytona, 308 GTB |
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| Owner Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Belgium
Ferrari Life Posts: 9
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| Owner Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK
Ferrari Life Posts: 12,781
| I only have what is listed in the link. If you call, leave a message, he will return your call.
Boxer Current: F40, F50, 612, 430 Scuderia Past: 360 Modena, 360 Challenge, 550, 575, 365BB, 512BB, 456 GT, F355 GTS, 365 GTB/4 Daytona, 308 GTB |
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| Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Europe
Ferrari Life Posts: 3,256
| +1! Welcome to F-Life
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| | #17 |
| Owner Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Belgium
Ferrari Life Posts: 9
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Found some more details about the car's history: a sticker in the door post mentioning it was imported by JT8 International 7673 Blaten Unie T Huntington Beach CA92547 Unfortunately no year or other details mentioned. Did some googling, but found no trace of it. Anybody out there ever heard of it? |
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| Owner Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK
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Boxer Current: F40, F50, 612, 430 Scuderia Past: 360 Modena, 360 Challenge, 550, 575, 365BB, 512BB, 456 GT, F355 GTS, 365 GTB/4 Daytona, 308 GTB | |
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| Owner Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Ramon, Calif
Ferrari Life Posts: 3,613
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| Owner Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Belgium
Ferrari Life Posts: 9
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I couldn't neither. It's hard to read on the sticker. "JT8" might be "JTS" the address could be "7673 Blaton Unit T" (in stead of Blaten) | |
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