Which is better of the 3 F430s? - Ferrari Life
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 18 Old 10-01-2014, 11:20 AM Thread Starter
 
efg2014's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Ferrari Life Posts: 343
Which is better of the 3 F430s?

Ok
Slowly getting there. With the limted info provided which would you find most interesting?

1. 2006 F430 with 6000 miles 2 owner and a new clutch.
2. 2006 F430 with 17000 miles 3 owner with ferrari certified. Clutch 50%
3 2006 F430 with 10,000 miles 3 owner. First owner was corporate 2nd & 3rd had it for 9 months.
4 2007 F430 with 16000 miles 3 owners.

Thoughts appreciated.

--thanks

Last edited by efg2014; 10-01-2014 at 11:23 AM. Reason: Left info off.
efg2014 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 18 Old 10-01-2014, 11:26 AM
GPM
 
GPM's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: canada
Ferrari Life Posts: 59
I say #1
GPM is offline  
post #3 of 18 Old 10-01-2014, 11:51 AM
Owner
 
360 Modena's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: USA
Ferrari Life Posts: 4,520
I'd opt for a manual shift.
Assume all are F1??
360 Modena is offline  
 
post #4 of 18 Old 10-01-2014, 01:39 PM
Owner
Elite Member
 
tazandjan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Ferrari Life Posts: 11,718
Kind of hard to know without prices, colors, options. Still hard to know after that.

Taz
Terry Phillips

Present: 575M 135171
Past: Dino 246 GT 02984, 365 GTB/4 14009, 308 GTS 25125

Every day I look around, and if nobody is shooting at me, it is a pretty good day.
tazandjan is online now  
post #5 of 18 Old 10-01-2014, 06:55 PM Thread Starter
 
efg2014's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Ferrari Life Posts: 343
All areF1, red coups. I realize more info would help but I didn't want to clutter and just wanted gut reactions from people who know more than me.
efg2014 is offline  
post #6 of 18 Old 10-01-2014, 08:26 PM
Owner
Elite Member
 
tazandjan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Ferrari Life Posts: 11,718
Buy on condition, not miles, and you will be happy. So pick out the one in the best condition based on records and inspections and you cannot go wrong.

Otherwise buy the newest, lowest mile one you can afford if they are all in great condition. A new clutch helps, but begs the question of who could wear out an F430 twin plate clutch in 6000 miles? That takes talent. You just about have to drive backwards around San Francisco or Colorado to do that.

Taz
Terry Phillips

Present: 575M 135171
Past: Dino 246 GT 02984, 365 GTB/4 14009, 308 GTS 25125

Every day I look around, and if nobody is shooting at me, it is a pretty good day.
tazandjan is online now  
post #7 of 18 Old 10-02-2014, 05:28 AM Thread Starter
 
efg2014's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Ferrari Life Posts: 343
Tazandjan,
Thank you for that. On the 2-owner 6k mile with a new clutch I like your explanation.
efg2014 is offline  
post #8 of 18 Old 10-02-2014, 08:00 AM
Elite Member
 
Forshage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Ferrari Life Posts: 22
I would lean towards #1, but what Taz says is true.
Unless the corporate car was the owner of the company's car I would stay away from it. Corporate cars and rent a cars are all 4 wheel drive!

I never wanted to go into a gunfight with the cheapest gun!
Forshage is offline  
post #9 of 18 Old 10-02-2014, 10:02 AM
Owner
 
Granucci's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: far and away
Ferrari Life Posts: 6,174
I realize the cost is not shown, but what is wrong with #2: Certified I expect means only clutch is needed and all else is in order. or am I missing the quality of Ferrari 'certification' yet again?

Guide to the Galaxy: Don't Panic
Rik -- LAH !


Current:
Past:
1990 Mondial T Cabriolet SN 86247 : Red/Tan
1995 456 GT 2+2 SN 99987 : Roso Metalizzato [Fer 311/C] & Tan
Granucci is offline  
post #10 of 18 Old 10-02-2014, 10:47 AM
Owner
Elite Member
 
tazandjan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Ferrari Life Posts: 11,718
Rik- The Ferrari certification does not really mean anything unless you buy the extended warranty. If something breaks they inspected, tough luck without that warranty.

Taz
Terry Phillips

Present: 575M 135171
Past: Dino 246 GT 02984, 365 GTB/4 14009, 308 GTS 25125

Every day I look around, and if nobody is shooting at me, it is a pretty good day.
tazandjan is online now  
post #11 of 18 Old 10-03-2014, 12:58 AM
Owner
 
Join Date: May 2012
Ferrari Life Posts: 51
#2, if sold by a Ferrari dealer. The 17.000 miles are not a big deal, and the Ferrari certificate with a correct 2 years warranty should make you peaceful.
#1, new clutch means NEW, or 6.000 miles clutch ? If new, it should have been faulty, or intended a big track use. (are you sure it's a twin plate ? My Scaglietti is 2006 single plate).

2004 Noble M12 GTO 3R - My luggage: a wife and a child.
2006 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti - My luggage: another child!
Tomorrow is today!
decanof is offline  
post #12 of 18 Old 10-03-2014, 07:44 AM
Owner
Elite Member
 
tazandjan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Ferrari Life Posts: 11,718
Yes, your early 612 has a single plate clutch. Same one as my 575M. Sessantas and OTOs have the 599 twin plate clutch. The F430 clutch was updated to twin plates after some owners managed to wear the single plate clutches on their 360s pretty quickly. Much tougher than the 360 clutch, as is the 599 clutch fitted to late 612s, compared to the one we have.

Taz
Terry Phillips

Present: 575M 135171
Past: Dino 246 GT 02984, 365 GTB/4 14009, 308 GTS 25125

Every day I look around, and if nobody is shooting at me, it is a pretty good day.
tazandjan is online now  
post #13 of 18 Old 10-06-2014, 10:37 PM
Owner
 
JazzyO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: The Netherlands
Ferrari Life Posts: 6,421
Ferrari certification means diddly squat.

Do not buy on numbers in an ad. Go and look at the cars and check service history. Don't buy with 50% clutch (why is it that low after only 17,000 miles????) unless you can get a new clutch in the deal.


Onno

Future: No idea
Present: 458 Italia, 550 Maranello
Past: 365BB x 2,
330GTC
JazzyO is offline  
post #14 of 18 Old 10-12-2014, 08:49 PM Thread Starter
 
efg2014's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Ferrari Life Posts: 343
Guys,
Thank you all for the beads of wisdom,it has been very helpful. I also hired Josh out of IAP Racing to provide me guidance. Keeping my fingers crossed, I should have a F430 in the next few weeks. I will put photos of it on the site.
efg2014 is offline  
post #15 of 18 Old 04-07-2015, 09:27 AM
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Ferrari Life Posts: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by JazzyO View Post
Ferrari certification means diddly squat.

Do not buy on numbers in an ad. Go and look at the cars and check service history. Don't buy with 50% clutch (why is it that low after only 17,000 miles????) unless you can get a new clutch in the deal.


Onno
i AGREE!
Classic Ferrari parts is offline  
post #16 of 18 Old 04-07-2015, 09:29 AM
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Ferrari Life Posts: 12
DEPENDS WHO DRIVES THESE F430'S SOME CLUTCHES ARE CHANGED EVERY 30000 km BECAUSE OF THE WAY PEOPLE DRIVE
Classic Ferrari parts is offline  
post #17 of 18 Old 04-08-2015, 01:05 AM
Owner
 
Join Date: May 2012
Ferrari Life Posts: 51
New clutch ? Just ask a 2.000/3.000 discount. Why give away a good clutch, especially if you do not use it in track.
Ferrari certified is good for any kind of problem, and this kind of car could have some (and very expensive to deal with).
For me (a non mechanical expert), first buy through a official seller with official warranty. After, look the car. Mileage is not relevant, they can do a lot of road. Less track use as you can. Search your preferred optional (oh yeah, it will be damn better drive your Ferrari without regretting anything). Go for it!
Aaaaaaand... Look for a 458, a little more expensive but a hell of a car, far beyond the 430. In the next year, with the new model, price should drop faster.
decanof is offline  
post #18 of 18 Old 04-28-2015, 06:19 PM
Owner
 
Phil Dade's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach, FL
Ferrari Life Posts: 66
Check out my ad for my F1 430 in the FS section. I just reduced it. See details. I would like to see a member have it. This is a good group!
Phil

Phil Dade
F 430 Berlinetta owner
Phil Dade is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome
Copyright 2012 ONE Media, Inc.
FerrariLife is independently run with no affiliation with Ferrari SpA
Ferrari for Sale | Maserati for Sale