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post #1 of 18 Old 02-11-2013, 09:52 AM Thread Starter
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Pre Purchase Inspection Checklist

When I purchased my 360, I had a checklist of sorts to use, but it was not as comprehensive as some of those on this forum.

As I will likely be purchasing another car sometime in my lifetime and with objective of helping others, I have flagrantly plagiarized from several people who have posted checklists of sorts here and have created this document (attached).

This is my first pass and if you find it useful, I propose to gather your comments and suggestions and make updates.

Perhaps this thread could be made into a sticky thread so that others can utilize it.

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Looks ok to me. Would be nice for a synopsis/personal-'take' area. But one could get all that in the comments area.

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What are going rates for a PPI on a 355? I was quoted $350 but it jumped way up to $900 to include a compression leak down check. Seems high to me.
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$350 seems low and only just looking at tea leaves or the exterior: So, very minor 'PPI' I wound't trust it at all.

$900 seems appropriate, but good luck on some even wanting to peroform the task: No win situation.

Only one I can see doing this is a shop that knows you pesonally, or doesn't mind the flak.

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Cost me $500 for a PPI on my 360.

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What are going rates for a PPI on a 355? I was quoted $350 but it jumped way up to $900 to include a compression leak down check. Seems high to me.
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You can also pay small price have a luxury auto shop/technician check out the car you are going to purchase and save a lot of headaches.
Contact ACE MOTORSPORTS. They are in Vista, Ca and will travel to do the inspection.
I used them in the past for my F430 spider
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Spending 1-2% of the total car price on getting guidance from experts is a good idea.
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Hi. I'm interested in getting my first Ferrari and wanted to know if anyone here knows, has bought or has had any experience with or San Francisco Motorsports (San Rafael, CA)? Thanks in advance.
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Pre Purchase Inspection Checklist

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When I purchased my 360, I had a checklist of sorts to use, but it was not as comprehensive as some of those on this forum.

As I will likely be purchasing another car sometime in my lifetime and with objective of helping others, I have flagrantly plagiarized from several people who have posted checklists of sorts here and have created this document (attached).

This is my first pass and if you find it useful, I propose to gather your comments and suggestions and make updates.

Perhaps this thread could be made into a sticky thread so that others can utilize it.

Steve

Nice Steve, thanks for sharing! 😃

Might I be so bold to suggest you modify the modifications to ask the following?

For each modification, indicate if it is reversible, est costs, or if it is DIY and if original parts are available

e.g. I have custom wheels on the TR and 360, which will cost $1000 to revert to original. The 360 is striped, but a new owner can easily remove it. I also kept the original 360 air boxes for reinstallation.

Also, exterior inspection - does it have 3M film on front bumper, hood, mirrors, and rear skirts? Is the film blemish free?

It'd be silly to rule out a modded car if it checks all the boxes.

This should be a sticky thread
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Thank for suggestion. I have made those changes to the checklist and attached here.

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Hi. I'm interested in getting my first Ferrari and wanted to know if anyone here knows, has bought or has had any experience with or San Francisco Motorsports (San Rafael, CA)? Thanks in advance.

I would recommend SFMS, San Rafael anytime. The guys were first hired by Ferrari SPa, San Francisco Ferrari, when the Factory owned that dealership. With Brian now going to TX and the other quality Mechs now with too much to do, these guys still manage to perform as advertised.

They do very reliable work and stand behind it not to mention their posted prices, like say for majors etc. are very very decent if not low IMO.

I have had two different Ferraris serviced by them. Tell John or Evan, Hi from Rik Granucci when/if you see them.

NOW: Back to the Pre-Purchase List

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I just finished with this PPI form. I downloaded version 1.3 and went through it with a fine tooth comb and magnifying glass as I overhauled it. Steve, you did a very, very thorough job coming up with it. I hope this is alright with you.

Thanks for the laugh when I saw "child locking functions" under body / exterior. My imagination had a good time with that one.
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Thanks Dave

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Hi Joe,

Good additions. Could you post your original Word doc so others could more easily edit it?

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Sure. One addition I know that should be made is ABS / Trac. Cont., instead of just ABS. The doc was created in Libre Office, so .odt is the file type originally and that can be downloaded here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i...ew?usp=sharing
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Good effort, the checklist concept is appealing in one sense but it won't cover so many situations and real world items easily...

For instance, recall's on parts and substitution parts improved over time to prevent issues (but not necessarily re-called - only replaced if worn/has issues recommendations by the factory).
There are literally hundreds of weak spots on any car and the 360 is no exception, just like any other modern car it is a collection of thousands of parts from hundreds of individual companies so its no wonder this is the case.

Some parts are no so important (just annoying!) like the old engine drip tray side panels on '99 models which didn't have the catch rails (later models did) so water would evaporate, re-condense, drip down the engine panels back onto the hot headers/manifolds and the cycle would continue on and on, irritatingly preventing any rear view visibility in wet weather!

Or how about a more important one, e.g. the chassis rails which the engine mounts sit on where found to need beefing up to prevent cracks on early '99 cars, the design was later improved but this was an upgrade during routine servicing done at dealers only if cracks/fatigue was evident. Did the car your looking at have this done or is it one of the newer cars?

You could try to condense all of the kind of knowledge into some sort of spreadsheet but its no so easy in many cases to detect issues. For instance unless you remove the ball joints, disassemble them and remove the rubber boots you cannot see if they are likely to fail in the future (due to the corrosion resistance coating being worn by dirt/debris) vs the obvious checks of 'wobbling' the suspension to check for play. If you remove them, you need to do full re-alignment of geo and is this really something an inspection can pickup! So it is not really it would take way too long. Better to see they have been replaced by aftermarket Hills Engineering upgraded Ball joints which are not only vastly better longevity than the original supplied factory parts they have been proven in many hundreds of cars.

What I am really trying to say is there is VAST amounts of knowledge that you really need your PPI inspector to have in their head, even if they do possess the knowledge and skills to validate all of the potential pit falls the inspection can easily exceed 8 man hours of effort and require testing ramps and removal of things like the under tray (a must) which takes time on its own - there are a lot of bolts!

Best advice I can give is to put faith in well respected, well known PPI testers wherever possible like Brian Crall (925 552 9700) who has pretty much seen everything and fixed everything that these cars are likely to throw at you...

Good luck!

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