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Rolling back the miles with Deis Tester

Interesting and troubling article regarding a salesman at a Ferrari dealership claiming that Ferrari has a device to roll back the miles. The device was supposedly used on a La Ferrari belonging to the CEO of Sarah Lee Industries. Very troubling if true...

http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2017/02/...ters-to-0.html

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post #2 of 5 Old 03-01-2017, 10:20 AM
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In order for the plaintiff's claim to be true, F Spa. and/or FNA would have to have an army of guys sitting at terminals monitoring and permitting DEIS log-ons and approving individual maintenance actions. That alone makes the claim ridiculous.


My guess is that DEIS is not even as robust as the engine health monitoring system GE uses for its jet engines, where jets send inflight data back to HQ. At the very most, I suspect F Spa. use the relayed info for trend analysis. So, guessing further, a more likely scenario is that at some point someone noticed a roll back in the data and flagged it. Once they started pulling the string, it led to the individual facility/mechanic.


Some things to keep in mind:
1 - the penalties for altering ODOs are very steep in the US.
2 - every car in the US has its ODO reading recorded; by the state during smog checks, safety inspections, recorded accidents, and increasingly for maintenance/repairs (think CARFAX)
3 - exotic cars live in a very small pond, and ones like the LaFa are tracked by an army of dealers, brokers, and train spotters


I can't imagine a dealership taking a car in for service and NOT noting the incoming mileage, if nothing else to document any mileage they added for testing or post-maintenance. So I think it is highly, repeat highly, unlikely a rollback of more than a couple hundred miles could occur without it being noticed.

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Dear David,

When you have no odometer no one knows or cares about mileage. :+)

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Dear David,

When you have no odometer no one knows or cares about mileage. :+)

Best regards,

Robert
And yet Admiral, you've painstakingly calculated The LBC's mileage history as close as you can!

Although I kid you, I also completely agree with you. The only concern I have with the Spider's odometer is to document its history. Since I intend to own it for as long as I can drive, resale value is of no concern to me. While I can understand those who derive enjoyment or financial gain from the attribute of minimal use, I'm not one of them.

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Dear David,

When you have no odometer no one knows or cares about mileage. :+)

Best regards,

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Admiral,
You sir are in a different category of owners. I believe in your class of ownership no odometer actually adds mystique and value.

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