599 replacement ... F620

Boxer · 02-15-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rallyman

Will they continue to make V12 engines after the Enzo's substitute?

I believe they will continue with 12 cylinder engines until they can no longer get them approved.

Barry · 02-15-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxer

I believe they will continue with 12 cylinder engines until they can no longer get them approved.

Do you think there will come a point in time where it will not be possible to produce a 12 cylinder engine that conforms to required standards?

Boxer · 02-15-2012, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry

Do you think there will come a point in time where it will not be possible to produce a 12 cylinder engine that conforms to required standards?

It is possible.

barcheta · 02-17-2012, 09:12 AM

I long for the days when Ferraris looked like nothing else on the road.... They came close with the 458. The rest... not so much.

iainuk · 02-18-2012, 09:58 AM

This is alleged to be a spyshot of the rear of the new car.

tazandjan · 02-18-2012, 11:21 AM

Iain- That looks like the mule that was on a truck in images on the other forum. We should know what she looks like by next week.

Mike430 · 02-19-2012, 09:22 PM

There's a rumour going around that Ferrari will be doing an online unveiling on the 22nd which is this coming Wednesday? The private unveiling is suppose to be taking place today.....

**Update** I was told earlier today by a Sales Executive at our local Ferrari agent that the dealer viewing is taking place on Wednesday, but nothing has been said of a public online debut.

212Export · 02-20-2012, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike430

There's a rumour going around that Ferrari will be doing an online unveiling on the 22nd which is this coming Wednesday? The private unveiling is suppose to be taking place today.....

**Update** I was told earlier today by a Sales Executive at our local Ferrari agent that the dealer viewing is taking place on Wednesday, but nothing has been said of a public online debut.

Private unveiling was today...740 HP, 8.5s 0-200Km....looks......beautiful.

wetpet · 02-20-2012, 10:23 AM

i was sort of hoping for a more radical departure from the 599 styling wise. i am sure i will love it in the flesh though. ferrari has a pretty good batting average.

tazandjan · 02-20-2012, 10:55 AM

212- Did you receive anything through ferrari.com on the car yet or do the rest of us have to wait with bated breath?

Mike430 · 02-20-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 212Export

Private unveiling was today...740 HP, 8.5s 0-200Km....looks......beautiful.

Thanks 212 for the info

Wow, 740hp! Wonder if anyone there today got to sneak a quick pic or two....

Is it confirmed that it will be called the 620 GT?

**Update**

Just read the same info given by 212, plus that it has a Dry weight of 1525kg (599 GTB 1579kg). Lap time around Fiorano is a 1:23 (599 GTO's time is a 1:24).

Just for comparison, the Aventador's 0-200km time is 8.8 seconds.

212Export · 02-20-2012, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tazandjan

212- Did you receive anything through ferrari.com on the car yet or do the rest of us have to wait with bated breath?

Terry, received that short only info from a usually very reliable contact. Have not heard or seen the car personally (sufferring from a cold, still).

212Export · 02-20-2012, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike430

Thanks 212 for the info

Wow, 740hp! Wonder if anyone there today got to sneak a quick pic or two....

Is it confirmed that it will be called the 620 GT?

**Update**

Just read the same info given by 212, plus that it has a Dry weight of 1525kg (599 GTB 1579kg). Lap time around Fiorano is a 1:23 (599 GTO's time is a 1:24).

Just for comparison, the Aventador's 0-200km time is 8.8 seconds.

About the name: I have no idea,
About the HP's: 730 or 740, forgot the correct number.

The car was described as very beautiful (but as usually that's very subjective)

Boxer · 02-20-2012, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 212Export

Private unveiling was today...740 HP, 8.5s 0-200Km....looks......beautiful.

Order placed?

212Export · 02-21-2012, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxer

Order placed?

No...never would....sorry. (Depreciation ;-)

champagne612 · 02-21-2012, 05:21 AM

12 cylinders are dinosaurs - no need and no way to get them compliant.

KERS adding 40- 60hp to the 8 cylinder producing 600 hp in the upcoming Scud version of the 458 the weight will soon get most of the attention.

The new Scud at 650 hp will probably be faster on the track than the 599 replacement at 730 hp.

Street cars from Ferrari are going to act like F1 cars - it's incredible!

RossoVeloce · 02-21-2012, 05:58 AM

They just said it will be unveiled to the public on the 29th.

212Export · 02-21-2012, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by champagne612

12 cylinders are dinosaurs - no need and no way to get them compliant.

KERS adding 40- 60hp to the 8 cylinder producing 600 hp in the upcoming Scud version of the 458 the weight will soon get most of the attention.

The new Scud at 650 hp will probably be faster on the track than the 599 replacement at 730 hp.

Street cars from Ferrari are going to act like F1 cars - it's incredible!

Interestingly power win seems never to be a problem even with higher emission requirements and lower fuel use.
However the weight question has never really suceeded in the last years. They are generally way above their "targets".

As carbon tubs seems to be a "no" for mass production cars, one way (besides shortening) would be to go back to Turbo / 6 cylinder construction. This would enable a much shorter and lighter block. It will be interesting if they are ever able to create that "mille chilli" philosophy for a mass production car again. Even the new impressiv 599 successor will weight 1575 kg dry. with those fabulouse acceleration specs of 0-200km's in 8.5 one wonders how that rocket would do with "mille chilli" !!

tazandjan · 02-21-2012, 09:25 AM

The future F1 formula of turbo six cylinders will give Ferrari the excuse they need if they want to do a V6 again. At least we know we have at least 8 more years of V12s with the new one being introduced.

The announced hp was 740. Time to buy stock in Michelin. Those rear tires will not last long.

02-17-2012, 09:12 AM	#24
barcheta Owner Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Maryland Ferrari Life Posts: 1,394 Name: JB	I long for the days when Ferraris looked like nothing else on the road.... They came close with the 458. The rest... not so much. Current: 85' GTS QV "I don't sell cars, I sell engines. The cars I throw in for free since something has to hold the engine."

02-18-2012, 09:58 AM	#25
iainuk Owner Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Ferrari Life Posts: 255	This is alleged to be a spyshot of the rear of the new car. Current: 458 spider (inbound), 246 GT (x 3) Past: 360M, F430 spider, 430 Scuderia, California (x 2), 458 Italia (x 2)

02-18-2012, 11:21 AM	#26
tazandjan Owner Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Albuquerque, NM Ferrari Life Posts: 3,592 Name: Terry H Phillips	Iain- That looks like the mule that was on a truck in images on the other forum. We should know what she looks like by next week. Taz Terry Phillips Present: 575M 135171 Past: Dino 246 GT 02984, 365 GTB/4 14009, 308 GTS 25125 Every day I look around, and if nobody is shooting at me, it is a pretty good day.

02-19-2012, 09:22 PM	#27
Mike430 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: South Africa Ferrari Life Posts: 1,068	There's a rumour going around that Ferrari will be doing an online unveiling on the 22nd which is this coming Wednesday? The private unveiling is suppose to be taking place today..... Update I was told earlier today by a Sales Executive at our local Ferrari agent that the dealer viewing is taking place on Wednesday, but nothing has been said of a public online debut. Last edited by Mike430; 02-20-2012 at 04:27 AM.

02-20-2012, 10:23 AM	#29
wetpet Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chevy Chase, Md Ferrari Life Posts: 6,599 Name: Ed	i was sort of hoping for a more radical departure from the 599 styling wise. i am sure i will love it in the flesh though. ferrari has a pretty good batting average. Everything you know is wrong Stop chatting and start living the ferrarilife!

02-20-2012, 10:55 AM	#30
tazandjan Owner Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Albuquerque, NM Ferrari Life Posts: 3,592 Name: Terry H Phillips	212- Did you receive anything through ferrari.com on the car yet or do the rest of us have to wait with bated breath? Taz Terry Phillips Present: 575M 135171 Past: Dino 246 GT 02984, 365 GTB/4 14009, 308 GTS 25125 Every day I look around, and if nobody is shooting at me, it is a pretty good day.

02-21-2012, 05:21 AM	#36
champagne612 Owner Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: St Louis Ferrari Life Posts: 4,629 Name: Doug	12 cylinders are dinosaurs - no need and no way to get them compliant. KERS adding 40- 60hp to the 8 cylinder producing 600 hp in the upcoming Scud version of the 458 the weight will soon get most of the attention. The new Scud at 650 hp will probably be faster on the track than the 599 replacement at 730 hp. Street cars from Ferrari are going to act like F1 cars - it's incredible!

02-21-2012, 05:58 AM	#37
RossoVeloce Join Date: Jun 2011 Ferrari Life Posts: 178 Name: Nathan	They just said it will be unveiled to the public on the 29th. "People who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world are usually the ones who do,"- Steve Jobs

02-21-2012, 09:25 AM	#39
tazandjan Owner Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Albuquerque, NM Ferrari Life Posts: 3,592 Name: Terry H Phillips	The future F1 formula of turbo six cylinders will give Ferrari the excuse they need if they want to do a V6 again. At least we know we have at least 8 more years of V12s with the new one being introduced. The announced hp was 740. Time to buy stock in Michelin. Those rear tires will not last long. Taz Terry Phillips Present: 575M 135171 Past: Dino 246 GT 02984, 365 GTB/4 14009, 308 GTS 25125 Every day I look around, and if nobody is shooting at me, it is a pretty good day.

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