samh

samh · 02-03-2012, 08:46 PM

I just got my 2003 360 & its f1 transmission shifts to neutral on its own while am driving on .then I hit paddle shifts up and it goess back to gear! I dont know whats going on .please help me....thansks alot.

Barry · 02-04-2012, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by samh

I just got my 2003 360 & its f1 transmission shifts to neutral on its own while am driving on .then I hit paddle shifts up and it goess back to gear! I dont know whats going on .please help me....thansks alot.

Happening at speed? When you hit the up paddle does it go back into the same gear that it had hopped out of? A false neutral so to speak?

tazandjan · 02-04-2012, 07:42 AM

Sam- Welcome to Ferrari Life. In general when the F1 system starts selecting neutral on its own, the clutch is on the way out. You should take it to someone with an SD2 or SD3 and have them bleed the system and reset point of initial slippage (PIS). They should also be able to give you an estimate of clutch life remaining. This may bandaid the problem for a while or show if there is another fault, but if I were you I would start saving for a new clutch.

Unfortunately, this in one of those cases where the car could end up stranding you by refusing to go into or out of gear at all. On a three pedal Modena, clutch wear is obvious because pedal effort gets very heavy as the linkage goes over-center towards the end of clutch life. On F1 cars this is masked by the 8-900 psi of hydraulic pressure operating the shift rods. Eventually the clutch wears to to point the system cannot make shifts and its fail-safe is to select neutral. Once the clutch reaches the point where neutral cannot be selected, you could be left with a car stuck in gear and no way to get it out of gear. Happened to a friend's 575M, which shares many components with the 360 F1 system. Left him in the middle of an intersection in gear with no way to push the car.

So get it checked out and maybe you will get lucky. At the very least, it will prevent you from being stranded.

wetpet · 02-04-2012, 07:50 AM

excellent response taz. i was just gonna tell him to have the clutch checked. I don't think you are told enough how great (and fast) your information is. when i read a response like this i think , people might not say it but it is greatly appreciated. I hope to meet you someday so i can buy you a drink.

tazandjan · 02-04-2012, 07:54 AM

Ed- Hope to be able to take you up on that some day.

Barry · 02-04-2012, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by wetpet

excellent response taz. i was just gonna tell him to have the clutch checked. I don't think you are told enough how great (and fast) your information is. when i read a response like this i think , people might not say it but it is greatly appreciated. I hope to meet you someday so i can buy you a drink.

+1. I'll buy the 2nd round

Killer58 · 02-04-2012, 08:53 AM

Hey buddy, is this the line to buy Taz drinks??

Boxer · 02-04-2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tazandjan

Sam- Welcome to Ferrari Life. In general when the F1 system starts selecting neutral on its own, the clutch is on the way out. You should take it to someone with an SD2 or SD3 and have them bleed the system and reset point of initial slippage (PIS). They should also be able to give you an estimate of clutch life remaining. This may bandaid the problem for a while or show if there is another fault, but if I were you I would start saving for a new clutch.

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+1, I would definitely get it looked at asap. It does sound like a clutch that is about to be in need of replacement.

02-04-2012, 07:42 AM	#3
tazandjan Owner Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Albuquerque, NM Ferrari Life Posts: 3,592 Name: Terry H Phillips	Sam- Welcome to Ferrari Life. In general when the F1 system starts selecting neutral on its own, the clutch is on the way out. You should take it to someone with an SD2 or SD3 and have them bleed the system and reset point of initial slippage (PIS). They should also be able to give you an estimate of clutch life remaining. This may bandaid the problem for a while or show if there is another fault, but if I were you I would start saving for a new clutch. Unfortunately, this in one of those cases where the car could end up stranding you by refusing to go into or out of gear at all. On a three pedal Modena, clutch wear is obvious because pedal effort gets very heavy as the linkage goes over-center towards the end of clutch life. On F1 cars this is masked by the 8-900 psi of hydraulic pressure operating the shift rods. Eventually the clutch wears to to point the system cannot make shifts and its fail-safe is to select neutral. Once the clutch reaches the point where neutral cannot be selected, you could be left with a car stuck in gear and no way to get it out of gear. Happened to a friend's 575M, which shares many components with the 360 F1 system. Left him in the middle of an intersection in gear with no way to push the car. So get it checked out and maybe you will get lucky. At the very least, it will prevent you from being stranded. Taz Terry Phillips Present: 575M 135171 Past: Dino 246 GT 02984, 365 GTB/4 14009, 308 GTS 25125 Every day I look around, and if nobody is shooting at me, it is a pretty good day.

02-04-2012, 07:50 AM	#4
wetpet Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chevy Chase, Md Ferrari Life Posts: 6,599 Name: Ed	excellent response taz. i was just gonna tell him to have the clutch checked. I don't think you are told enough how great (and fast) your information is. when i read a response like this i think , people might not say it but it is greatly appreciated. I hope to meet you someday so i can buy you a drink. Everything you know is wrong Stop chatting and start living the ferrarilife!

02-04-2012, 07:54 AM	#5
tazandjan Owner Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Albuquerque, NM Ferrari Life Posts: 3,592 Name: Terry H Phillips	Ed- Hope to be able to take you up on that some day. Taz Terry Phillips Present: 575M 135171 Past: Dino 246 GT 02984, 365 GTB/4 14009, 308 GTS 25125 Every day I look around, and if nobody is shooting at me, it is a pretty good day. Last edited by tazandjan; 02-04-2012 at 09:06 AM.

02-04-2012, 08:53 AM	#7
Killer58 Owner Elite Member Join Date: May 2010 Ferrari Life Posts: 1,419 Name: David	Hey buddy, is this the line to buy Taz drinks?? Of all the narcissists I know, I love me the most.

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02-03-2012, 08:46 PM	#1
samh Owner Join Date: Feb 2012 Ferrari Life Posts: 1	samh I just got my 2003 360 & its f1 transmission shifts to neutral on its own while am driving on .then I hit paddle shifts up and it goess back to gear! I dont know whats going on .please help me....thansks alot.