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Old 01-22-2012, 02:06 AM   #1
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This question came up in regards to an F40 that was auctioned off in the UK recently. The F40 had been involved in a heavy crash back in the mid 80s in which the driver was killed. It was sent off to Italy and fully restored (including a replacement chassis that was stamped by Ferrari with the original Chassis number). Basically it is a new F40 at this point.

Would you buy it?

Personally I would not be comfortable buying a car that someone was killed in.

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No, I wouldn't, mainly because of the same reason. I also think it's a strange thing that Ferrari would want that car back on the road.....


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No way, Jose -- that's just creepy buying a car that someone died in/
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Old 01-22-2012, 03:46 AM   #4
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Don't think I would either for the same reasons.

On a related topic I have a friend who didn't buy a house some years ago because someone had been killed in it.


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One other thought that did come to mind, regarding many of the early Ferrari race cars. Many of those were involved in fatal accidents and then hammered back into shape and raced again, today some are worth $$$$$$.

Personally this would still bother me.


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Isn't this a case of Trigger's broom? Meaning that if the chassis is all new is it really the same car? Personally I wouldn't have a problem if the car was priced appropriately. I think it sold for just north of £200k, which looks like good value. It may always be worth less because of the history but with such a low starting price it should be possible to get your money back.
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Totally would buy it.

People die in their homes all the time. You don't see them staying empty.
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I am in the minority I guess. I would. Would you buy a house that someone died in? I would as well.

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This question came up in regards to an F40 that was auctioned off in the UK recently. The F40 had been involved in a heavy crash back in the mid 80s in which the driver was killed. It was sent off to Italy and fully restored (including a replacement chassis that was stamped by Ferrari with the original Chassis number). Basically it is a new F40 at this point.

Would you buy it?

Personally I would not be comfortable buying a car that someone was killed in.

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Old 01-22-2012, 04:50 AM   #9
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Isn't this a case of Trigger's broom? Meaning that if the chassis is all new is it really the same car? Personally I wouldn't have a problem if the car was priced appropriately. I think it sold for just north of £200k, which looks like good value. It may always be worth less because of the history but with such a low starting price it should be possible to get your money back.
I would have agreed a few weeks ago.

After reading the numerous threads on Ferrari's poor restoration work I simply wouldn't trust the work. Seems like if Ferrari doesn't do things right it's okie dokie because they did it under the flag.

So unless it was given the worlds best PPI - I wouldn't own it.
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I wouldn't buy it. I wouldn't buy a house if someone was murdered in it or committed suicide in it. I know there are people that would, but not me.


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I would and wouldn't…here’s why…someone died, that’s terrible yes so if it’s from a heart attack and had a small fender bender with it or committed suicide in it…I wouldn’t care, I would buy it. But if the car was destroyed and needed a full chassis today…..there is no way technicians are that smart to ensure the car is as strong as the first day built. For other types of cars, maybe but the F40 is a road race car from the 80's. Sorry, no buy for me on that point.

Now the last point, if the car was still being produced then it could go back in the line and have the current technicians who work on each area go in for the repair then yes I would even if it was a full new chassis build up. Why? Because it’s still fresh in their minds how to build it. But having a young guy rebuild a car from the 80’s who only had a poster of it on his wall, well I’m sorry….he doesn’t know shit about shit, you know the little things they learned over the production build period.


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Old 01-22-2012, 06:56 AM   #12
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No thank you no matter how good a price. Christine for all I care can stay parked or hung on a wall as a macabre ornament.

Although I have the instrument cluster from my late brothers car in my car. ( He was killed in a motorcar accident in his BMW 333i only made in South Africa roughly 250 cars) If you will excuse the superstition I have it as a "lucky charm".
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No thank you no matter how good a price. Christine for all I care can stay parked or hung on a wall as a macabre ornament.

Although I have the instrument cluster from my late brothers car in my car. ( He was killed in a motorcar accident in his BMW 333i only made in South Africa roughly 250 cars) If you will excuse the superstition I have it as a "lucky charm".
I can certainly see the reasoning behing your "lucky charm" Peter. Makes perfect sense in an illogical but touching way.

Very sorry to hear about the tale behind it though. My sincere sympathies.


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sounds like the only thing left over is parts..... and the old vin.

basically a new car.
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I can certainly see the reasoning behing your "lucky charm" Peter. Makes perfect sense in an illogical but touching way.

Very sorry to hear about the tale behind it though. My sincere sympathies.
Barry well said.

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maybe after i get rid of this one i'll think about it.
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phunny reactions about a car... we accept going to hospitals without hesitation, whose equipment and facilities have been used many times over, a pit stop for most, yet a transit point for others to their final destinations...
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This question came up in regards to an F40 that was auctioned off in the UK recently. The F40 had been involved in a heavy crash back in the mid 80s in which the driver was killed. It was sent off to Italy and fully restored (including a replacement chassis that was stamped by Ferrari with the original Chassis number). Basically it is a new F40 at this point.

Would you buy it?

Personally I would not be comfortable buying a car that someone was killed in.

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I believe this was a 1990 car not a mid '80's car?


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Or you could take the Garp approach and rationalize that it already happened once, won't happen again.

Its been pre-disastered.
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Wouldn't bother me in the least. If I wanted the car, I'd by it.


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