Possible new owner.

gary.taylor17 · 12-12-2011, 03:02 PM

Hi i just need some help with making a choice between a v12 vantage or f430.My son feels im abit to old to have a f430 at 53yrs.Whats your thoughts about it.
I would greatly apprieciate any advice on the 430 as im not sure what to look for regarding purchase of used cars.

Barry · 12-12-2011, 03:11 PM

Gary
Welcome to Ferrari Life. Given the nature of the site you're probably going to get a slightly biased answer here. I've never owned the V12 vantage, but did own a V8 V for a couple years. It's a great car, but I'd take a 430 over it any day!

At 53, your not too old for it, come to think of it any age is the perfect age for a Ferrari... Good luck with your deliberations. Make sure and let us know how you get on.

Saint Bastage · 12-12-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gary.taylor17

Whats your thoughts about it.

Well...to start with, you obviously have brains. Who's your sons mother? lemme guess...Blonde.

Sorry..that might be to close, It was intended humorously. Its a disease I have, KTS...Keyboard Tourettes Syndrome.

I'm 51 and if my son said I was to old for anything he'd soon be paying rent. Pick the one YOU like, and as Barry said, Welcome aboard.

gary.taylor17 · 12-12-2011, 03:28 PM

Thanks for that lads,i have always been a petrol head and never owned a ferrari.
Ive currently got a v8v but now have an itch after 2 years,the v12 looks great but similar to my own.(in some ways only)
But still looking at 85k for one, when i can pick up a 430 for mid Sixties.
Decisions Decisions

champagne612 · 12-12-2011, 03:36 PM

I can tell you this - my neighbor owned a 430 and bought a 458.

One year later traded the 430 on the V12 Vantage ... stick for stick

The Vantage V12 is a very fast car - but the 430 is a very fast well handling car.

In other words an Aston would be great if you own a Ferrari

I have always liked Astons and Bentleys - but everytime I come close to the car I feel too young at age 50.

Astons are beautiful cars - Ferrari's are dead sexy.

Killer58 · 12-12-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gary.taylor17

My son feels im abit to old to have a f430 at 53yrs.

Ah youth, it is indeed wasted on the young...

I was 53 when I bought my 360. I'm not too old. Then again, impressing young boys never entered into the decision. Conversely, everywhere I've gone, yonger women seem to like it.

Boxer · 12-13-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gary.taylor17

Hi i just need some help with making a choice between a v12 vantage or f430.My son feels im abit to old to have a f430 at 53yrs.Whats your thoughts about it.
I would greatly apprieciate any advice on the 430 as im not sure what to look for regarding purchase of used cars.

Lots of good advice on what to look for in purchasing a 430 in the following forum:

Modern V8s: 360, F430, 458 - Ferrari Life

Looking for a 430 Spider & Help with a Buyers Guide

maintenance on f430 with manual trans

Help? 430 Scuderia Buyers Guide

550JM · 12-13-2011, 02:00 PM

Hi Gary and welcome!
IMHO your choice should be based on 1 thing only; which car makes your heartbeat go up...in other words, what do you want to drive...?
Being a Aston Martin owner you know what it's like, even though the V12 will differ from the V8, it's still rather the same...a Ferrari, well, just isn't!
I get to drive my friends AM V8 V occaissionally but it just doesn't give me the thrill my F-car does, but that is personal I guess....I'd say find one and test drive it so you know first hand what it's like! (and ignore your son...) :-)
Hope this helps!

barcheta · 12-13-2011, 02:20 PM

Keyboard Tourettes Syndrome.... I like that. You're not the only one who suffers from it Lane..... quite a few comedians on here have it.

I think it was Enzo that said he built cars for young men that only old men could afford.....

Gary get the Ferrari... you'll thank us all later.

gary.taylor17 · 12-13-2011, 02:40 PM

Many thanks Lads im almost convinced know.Started making enquires so can't wait to test drive.
Ive noticed a massive gap between the retail prices and trade values.
Dont they want it all.Hoping to get a private seller to Trade with and maybe we will both be happy with the deal.

wetpet · 12-13-2011, 05:01 PM

Drive the f430. then your mind will be made up. don't forget to press the right peddle down with purpose and listen to the angels sing.

Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS · 12-13-2011, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wetpet

Drive the f430. then your mind will be made up. don't forget to press the right peddle down with purpose and listen to the angels sing.

+1. Test drive a few and that should do it. Let your heart make the decision, instead of logic. Good luck with your search. w/ smiles Jimmy

Boxer · 12-13-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gary.taylor17

Many thanks Lads im almost convinced know.Started making enquires so can't wait to test drive.
Ive noticed a massive gap between the retail prices and trade values.
Dont they want it all.Hoping to get a private seller to Trade with and maybe we will both be happy with the deal.

are you based in the UK?

550JM · 12-13-2011, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wetpet

Drive the f430. then your mind will be made up. don't forget to press the right peddle down with purpose and listen to the angels sing.

Wetpet, you're a poet! What a wonderful way to put it.....it seems you do have a wet spot....eeehhhmm weak spot

gary.taylor17 · 12-14-2011, 09:00 AM

Yes

Boxer · 12-14-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gary.taylor17

Yes

Let me know if you need any advice on dealers, PPIs, etc.

gary.taylor17 · 12-18-2011, 10:47 PM

Would love any advice and ppi.
Thanks.

Boxer · 12-19-2011, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gary.taylor17

Would love any advice and ppi.
Thanks.

You have a PM.

Boxer · 12-19-2011, 04:57 AM

Let me know how you get on.

360 Modena · 12-19-2011, 05:34 AM

Perhaps your son is thinking of his own inheritance?

A wise old man once told me this about our cars:

"We don't own them per se. We are but the caretakers's for the next generation."

Either car is great; but you will relive your misspent youth with a Ferrari.

A Wetpet so eloquently said, the angels will sing.

12-12-2011, 03:02 PM	#1
gary.taylor17 Owner Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: York England Ferrari Life Posts: 76 Name: Garry Taylor	Possible new owner. Hi i just need some help with making a choice between a v12 vantage or f430.My son feels im abit to old to have a f430 at 53yrs.Whats your thoughts about it. I would greatly apprieciate any advice on the 430 as im not sure what to look for regarding purchase of used cars. Last edited by gary.taylor17; 12-12-2011 at 03:08 PM.

12-12-2011, 03:11 PM	#2
Barry Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Europe Ferrari Life Posts: 3,256	Gary Welcome to Ferrari Life. Given the nature of the site you're probably going to get a slightly biased answer here. I've never owned the V12 vantage, but did own a V8 V for a couple years. It's a great car, but I'd take a 430 over it any day! At 53, your not too old for it, come to think of it any age is the perfect age for a Ferrari... Good luck with your deliberations. Make sure and let us know how you get on. Barry Ferrari's: 360 Modena F1, 308 GT4 Other Italians: Ducati 916, Ducati 848 DD's: RR Sport, BMW 645ci, BMW 1200GS Adv.

12-13-2011, 02:00 PM	#8
550JM Owner Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Netherlands Ferrari Life Posts: 547 Name: Jeroen	Hi Gary and welcome! IMHO your choice should be based on 1 thing only; which car makes your heartbeat go up...in other words, what do you want to drive...? Being a Aston Martin owner you know what it's like, even though the V12 will differ from the V8, it's still rather the same...a Ferrari, well, just isn't! I get to drive my friends AM V8 V occaissionally but it just doesn't give me the thrill my F-car does, but that is personal I guess....I'd say find one and test drive it so you know first hand what it's like! (and ignore your son...) :-) Hope this helps! Jeroen Italian bella's: 550 Maranello 7-2000 nero/nero 1974 Ducati 750 Yellow Sport 1974 Ducati 350 Desmo Yellow Sport 2010 Ducati Multistrada Power is nothing without control

12-13-2011, 02:20 PM	#9
barcheta Owner Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Maryland Ferrari Life Posts: 1,394 Name: JB	Keyboard Tourettes Syndrome.... I like that. You're not the only one who suffers from it Lane..... quite a few comedians on here have it. I think it was Enzo that said he built cars for young men that only old men could afford..... Gary get the Ferrari... you'll thank us all later. Current: 85' GTS QV "I don't sell cars, I sell engines. The cars I throw in for free since something has to hold the engine."

12-13-2011, 02:40 PM	#10
gary.taylor17 Owner Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: York England Ferrari Life Posts: 76 Name: Garry Taylor	Got the Itch Many thanks Lads im almost convinced know.Started making enquires so can't wait to test drive. Ive noticed a massive gap between the retail prices and trade values. Dont they want it all.Hoping to get a private seller to Trade with and maybe we will both be happy with the deal.

12-12-2011, 03:28 PM	#4
gary.taylor17 Owner Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: York England Ferrari Life Posts: 76 Name: Garry Taylor	Thanks for that lads,i have always been a petrol head and never owned a ferrari. Ive currently got a v8v but now have an itch after 2 years,the v12 looks great but similar to my own.(in some ways only) But still looking at 85k for one, when i can pick up a 430 for mid Sixties. Decisions Decisions

12-12-2011, 03:36 PM	#5
champagne612 Owner Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: St Louis Ferrari Life Posts: 4,629 Name: Doug	I can tell you this - my neighbor owned a 430 and bought a 458. One year later traded the 430 on the V12 Vantage ... stick for stick The Vantage V12 is a very fast car - but the 430 is a very fast well handling car. In other words an Aston would be great if you own a Ferrari I have always liked Astons and Bentleys - but everytime I come close to the car I feel too young at age 50. Astons are beautiful cars - Ferrari's are dead sexy.

12-13-2011, 05:01 PM	#11
wetpet Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chevy Chase, Md Ferrari Life Posts: 6,599 Name: Ed	Drive the f430. then your mind will be made up. don't forget to press the right peddle down with purpose and listen to the angels sing. Everything you know is wrong Stop chatting and start living the ferrarilife!

12-14-2011, 09:00 AM	#15
gary.taylor17 Owner Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: York England Ferrari Life Posts: 76 Name: Garry Taylor	Yes

12-18-2011, 10:47 PM	#17
gary.taylor17 Owner Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: York England Ferrari Life Posts: 76 Name: Garry Taylor	Would love any advice and ppi. Thanks.

12-19-2011, 04:57 AM	#19
Boxer Owner Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK Ferrari Life Posts: 12,778	Let me know how you get on. Boxer Current: F40, F50, 612, 430 Scuderia Past: 360 Modena, 360 Challenge, 550, 575, 365BB, 512BB, 456 GT, F355 GTS, 365 GTB/4 Daytona, 308 GTB

12-19-2011, 05:34 AM	#20
360 Modena Owner Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: East Coast USA Ferrari Life Posts: 1,908	Perhaps your son is thinking of his own inheritance? A wise old man once told me this about our cars: "We don't *own* them per se. We are but the caretakers's for the next generation." Either car is great; but you will relive your misspent youth with a Ferrari. A Wetpet so eloquently said, *the angels will sing.* 360 & TR Cars & Coffee at CITY DOCK ANNAPOLIS 9am-noon Every Sunday *F-CHAT Exile* now living the *Ferrari Life*.

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