Dino head light shading

Jack Langrishe · 01-30-2012, 10:53 AM

Dear All,
Just joined the forum and need a little help.
I have a Right Hand Drive 1973 Dino 246GT. I am intending to go to Classic Le Mans in July and want to shade my lights properly to prevent dazzle to oncoming traffic. Unfortunately the shade kits do not include a graphic of my lights.The lights fitted are what I believe to be the original Carello light units (photo attached - I hope!). Does anyone have any ideas?
Jack Langrishe

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barcheta · 01-30-2012, 11:11 AM

By shade do you mean yellow? If that's the case seems like you could just pop in another set of lights with the effect you are looking for and that way you aren't messing with the OE Carellos.

Granucci · 01-30-2012, 11:18 AM

Wouldn't Jim Glickenhouse know?

tazandjan · 01-30-2012, 11:51 AM

Jack- Welcome to Ferrari Life. I assume your car is RHD and you are worried about the lights dipping to the left instead of the right?

Barry · 01-30-2012, 12:21 PM

Jack, welcome to FL

There was a time when you were supposed to shade your lights yellow when driving in France. As far as I know there is no requirement for that now. You can buy "stickers" for the headlights to prevent the main beam pointing left when driving on the right.

Also, don't forget you high viz vest,which is mandatory in France.

tazandjan · 01-30-2012, 12:24 PM

Barry- What is a high viz vest? Is that something like the German requirement for a reflector triangle and a medical kit?

Barry · 01-30-2012, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tazandjan

Barry- What is a high viz vest? Is that something like the German requirement for a reflector triangle and a medical kit?

Here you go Terry,

» Hi-Vis Vest » Dutch Bike Shop

tazandjan · 01-30-2012, 02:15 PM

Barry- Thanks. Looks like it makes you a pretty good target.

Jack Langrishe · 01-31-2012, 11:40 AM

Thanks to All.
Tazandejan / Barry are up to speed on this. As this is a RHD car the lights as set glare on coming traffic. Motor factors sell blanking tape to stick on the lenses but I don't know what shape to use and where to stick it... as it were!!
I am aware of the requirements for Hi Viz vests in France. Not sure why we don't all just walk round in these wretched things 24/7. I also have my bulb kit, fire extinguisher, first aid kit...and a small bundle of Euros but those won't be worth much soon!!

Jack Langrishe · 02-05-2012, 02:41 AM

Sorry to be boring about this but I rather like the idea of having a set of yellow LHD lights. Any views as to where they can be obtained?
Jack

TitanioGrigio · 02-21-2012, 04:18 PM

Jack.

Why not just swap out your headlamps for a set of US spec lamps.

Wagner's are still available for not much money, and it's not hard to do the swap. Just a few screws as I recall.

I don't recall exactly, but there's a modern set of Phillips that work to, the old Westinghouse code was 4024 or 4244 I think.

I may have a set buried in the garage, I can take a look if you're interested.

Dave

Jack Langrishe · 02-26-2012, 03:09 AM

Dave, 2 interesting options.
Wagners? Fogive my ignorance. Any idea where I could place an order. On the other hand if you have a set lying around very happy to come to a deal with you.
Jack

iainuk · 02-26-2012, 04:21 AM

Superformance can supply LHD headlights - part no. 24619105

206 / 246 LIGHTS Superformance ferrari dino ferrari v6 ferrari v12 specialists 308 246 206 fiat dino 355 328

NigelV12 · 02-26-2012, 07:31 AM

Jack, welcome to FL,
Living and driving in France, I would just point out that yellow lights are no longer required in France since 1996, when France aligned to European norms on motor cars. You see very few cars with yellow lights now, since most, even the old cars, have been swopped out to white bulbs. Having driven with both, I prefer the white. At the same power the white gives better lighting of the road.
On the yellow high visibility jackets, they must be accessible without getting out of the car i.e. not in the boot/trunk or under the bonnet/hood and you must have one for each seat in the car.
Nigel

TitanioGrigio · 02-27-2012, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Langrishe

Dave, 2 interesting options.
Wagners? Fogive my ignorance. Any idea where I could place an order. On the other hand if you have a set lying around very happy to come to a deal with you.
Jack

ebay is your friend

1970-1975 Ferrari Dino NOS Headlamps HeadlightS pair 12V pair Sealed Beam 7" | eBay

not my listing, but these are the correct Westinghouse headlights which are NLA except as NOS.

I'll dig in the garage when I get home this afternoon, see what I can find.

Dave

Jack Langrishe · 03-11-2012, 04:54 AM

Dear All,
I have decided yto go down the route of ordering New LHD units from Superformance. so many thanks for all your help.

01-30-2012, 10:53 AM	#1
Jack Langrishe Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Surrey, England but working abroad Ferrari Life Posts: 10 Name: Jack Langrishe	Dino head light shading Dear All, Just joined the forum and need a little help. I have a Right Hand Drive 1973 Dino 246GT. I am intending to go to Classic Le Mans in July and want to shade my lights properly to prevent dazzle to oncoming traffic. Unfortunately the shade kits do not include a graphic of my lights.The lights fitted are what I believe to be the original Carello light units (photo attached - I hope!). Does anyone have any ideas? Jack Langrishe

01-30-2012, 11:11 AM	#2
barcheta Owner Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Maryland Ferrari Life Posts: 1,394 Name: JB	By shade do you mean yellow? If that's the case seems like you could just pop in another set of lights with the effect you are looking for and that way you aren't messing with the OE Carellos. Current: 85' GTS QV "I don't sell cars, I sell engines. The cars I throw in for free since something has to hold the engine."

01-30-2012, 11:18 AM	#3
Granucci Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: far and away Ferrari Life Posts: 5,039	Wouldn't Jim Glickenhouse know? Guide to the Galaxy: Don't Panic Rik -- LAH ! Current: 1990 Mondial T Cabriolet : Red/Tan 1995 456 GT 2+2 : Roso Metalizzato [Fer 311/C] & Tan

01-30-2012, 11:51 AM	#4
tazandjan Owner Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Albuquerque, NM Ferrari Life Posts: 3,574 Name: Terry H Phillips	Jack- Welcome to Ferrari Life. I assume your car is RHD and you are worried about the lights dipping to the left instead of the right? Taz Terry Phillips Present: 575M 135171 Past: Dino 246 GT 02984, 365 GTB/4 14009, 308 GTS 25125 Every day I look around, and if nobody is shooting at me, it is a pretty good day.

01-30-2012, 12:21 PM	#5
Barry Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Europe Ferrari Life Posts: 3,255	Jack, welcome to FL There was a time when you were supposed to shade your lights yellow when driving in France. As far as I know there is no requirement for that now. You can buy "stickers" for the headlights to prevent the main beam pointing left when driving on the right. Also, don't forget you high viz vest,which is mandatory in France. Barry Ferrari's: 360 Modena F1, 308 GT4 Other Italians: Ducati 916, Ducati 848 DD's: RR Sport, BMW 645ci, BMW 1200GS Adv.

01-30-2012, 12:24 PM	#6
tazandjan Owner Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Albuquerque, NM Ferrari Life Posts: 3,574 Name: Terry H Phillips	Barry- What is a high viz vest? Is that something like the German requirement for a reflector triangle and a medical kit? Taz Terry Phillips Present: 575M 135171 Past: Dino 246 GT 02984, 365 GTB/4 14009, 308 GTS 25125 Every day I look around, and if nobody is shooting at me, it is a pretty good day.

01-30-2012, 02:15 PM	#8
tazandjan Owner Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Albuquerque, NM Ferrari Life Posts: 3,574 Name: Terry H Phillips	Barry- Thanks. Looks like it makes you a pretty good target. Taz Terry Phillips Present: 575M 135171 Past: Dino 246 GT 02984, 365 GTB/4 14009, 308 GTS 25125 Every day I look around, and if nobody is shooting at me, it is a pretty good day.

01-31-2012, 11:40 AM	#9
Jack Langrishe Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Surrey, England but working abroad Ferrari Life Posts: 10 Name: Jack Langrishe	Thanks to All. Tazandejan / Barry are up to speed on this. As this is a RHD car the lights as set glare on coming traffic. Motor factors sell blanking tape to stick on the lenses but I don't know what shape to use and where to stick it... as it were!! I am aware of the requirements for Hi Viz vests in France. Not sure why we don't all just walk round in these wretched things 24/7. I also have my bulb kit, fire extinguisher, first aid kit...and a small bundle of Euros but those won't be worth much soon!!

02-05-2012, 02:41 AM	#10
Jack Langrishe Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Surrey, England but working abroad Ferrari Life Posts: 10 Name: Jack Langrishe	Sorry to be boring about this but I rather like the idea of having a set of yellow LHD lights. Any views as to where they can be obtained? Jack

02-21-2012, 04:18 PM	#11
TitanioGrigio Join Date: Apr 2010 Ferrari Life Posts: 48	Jack. Why not just swap out your headlamps for a set of US spec lamps. Wagner's are still available for not much money, and it's not hard to do the swap. Just a few screws as I recall. I don't recall exactly, but there's a modern set of Phillips that work to, the old Westinghouse code was 4024 or 4244 I think. I may have a set buried in the garage, I can take a look if you're interested. Dave

02-26-2012, 03:09 AM	#12
Jack Langrishe Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Surrey, England but working abroad Ferrari Life Posts: 10 Name: Jack Langrishe	Dave, 2 interesting options. Wagners? Fogive my ignorance. Any idea where I could place an order. On the other hand if you have a set lying around very happy to come to a deal with you. Jack

02-26-2012, 04:21 AM	#13
iainuk Owner Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Ferrari Life Posts: 255	Superformance can supply LHD headlights - part no. 24619105 206 / 246 LIGHTS Superformance ferrari dino ferrari v6 ferrari v12 specialists 308 246 206 fiat dino 355 328 Current: 458 spider (inbound), 246 GT (x 3) Past: 360M, F430 spider, 430 Scuderia, California (x 2), 458 Italia (x 2)

02-26-2012, 07:31 AM	#14
NigelV12 Owner Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: France Ferrari Life Posts: 41 Name: Nigel	Jack, welcome to FL, Living and driving in France, I would just point out that yellow lights are no longer required in France since 1996, when France aligned to European norms on motor cars. You see very few cars with yellow lights now, since most, even the old cars, have been swopped out to white bulbs. Having driven with both, I prefer the white. At the same power the white gives better lighting of the road. On the yellow high visibility jackets, they must be accessible without getting out of the car i.e. not in the boot/trunk or under the bonnet/hood and you must have one for each seat in the car. Nigel '97 Rosso Corsa 550 Maranello

03-11-2012, 04:54 AM	#16
Jack Langrishe Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Surrey, England but working abroad Ferrari Life Posts: 10 Name: Jack Langrishe	Dear All, I have decided yto go down the route of ordering New LHD units from Superformance. so many thanks for all your help.

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