Are Boxers a good investment?

Boxer · 01-15-2011, 12:49 AM

In terms of the original question, have seen a few BBs coming up for auction recently. reserve prices seem to be down Euro 10-20k vs last year. Not sure if this is due to condition on individual cars or if prices have dropped slightly.

SCM246 · 01-17-2011, 01:10 AM

A friend completed a purchase of a very nice BB512i in great condition, where it had just completed the major servicing before sale and has all books/tools for USD$100k

Boxer · 01-17-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SCM246

A friend completed a purchase of a very nice BB512i in great condition, where it had just completed the major servicing before sale and has all books/tools for USD$100k

Sounds like he bought very well.

parkerfe · 01-29-2011, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by archiegibbs

As a kid the 365/512 Boxer's were my dream cars, I've always dreamed of owning one, and who knows, maybe one day?
I've been watching prices for a couple of years, reading buyers guides, reviews, owners comments (inc our forum members experiences), and it seems that Boxers are just not a desirable as other 12 cylinder Ferrari's.
In the UK/Europe £50000 GBP or €75000 should be enough to get a good 512 BB.
The Boxer's predecessor, the Daytona's now have prices upwards of £150K GBP, does anyone feel that it's only a matter of time before Boxer's values start to creep up and catch the earlier 12 cylinder cars?
Or are they best avoided, and should one consider the TR/512TR/512M or 550 as a better longer term investment and cheaper car to maintain?
I might add, that driver enjoyment, fulfilling a childhood dream and not investment potential is my primary goal, but at the same time I don't want to spend money keeping a car on the road (and probably a lot

) and not see it appreciate in value.

I've own a TR and currently own a BB512i. The Boxer is much more reliable and less expensive to maintain than a TR. But, never buy a Ferrari as an investment. Buy it to drive. Otherwise, you are missing the point of owning one.

Daytona73 · 06-09-2011, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Boxer

In terms of the original question, have seen a few BBs coming up for auction recently. reserve prices seem to be down Euro 10-20k vs last year. Not sure if this is due to condition on individual cars or if prices have dropped slightly.

157K€ for this 365BB sold in Florida (March 2011) RM Auctions

Weird injection system on this one http://www.wunscholdtimer.de/index.php?id=52&tx_car_pi1[showUid]=423&tx_car_pi1[CMD]=single&tx_car_pi1[title]=FERRARI%20-%20365%20GT4%20BB%20-%20Präsentationswagen%20IAA&tx_car_pi1[backPid]=52&cHash=4fd37f7d0b

http://www.wunscholdtimer.de/index.p...717db8b39baf76

Boxer · 06-09-2011, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Daytona73

157K€ for this 365BB sold in Florida (March 2011) RM Auctions

Lovely 365BB and very well sold at well over the estimate. Guess there were several determined buyers in the hall that day.

colonel1961 · 06-10-2011, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Daytona73

Weird injection system on this one Wunscholdtimer :: Disponibilité actuelle ::[showUid]=423&tx_car_pi1[CMD]=single&tx_car_pi1[title]=FERRARI%20-%20365%20GT4%20BB%20-%20Präsentationswagen%20IAA&tx_car_pi1[backPid]=52&cHash=4fd37f7d0b

Wonderful photos. Not familiar with that windshield wiper configuration (large main, small off-set) but I guess I never paid close enough attention. Assuming the triple pipes are not spec?

Jimmy Chen Shiba DDS · 06-10-2011, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by colonel1961

Wonderful photos. Not familiar with that windshield wiper configuration (large main, small off-set) but I guess I never paid close enough attention. Assuming the triple pipes are not spec?

The details you mentioned are specs, colonel1961, including triple tailpipes and triple lights. These
are some of the distinguishing differences unique to 365 BB versus 512s. w/ smiles Jimmy

PS. Made an error and uploaded one pic (4th pic) that showed detailed hood of latter 365 BB model. Sorry.

Danny Wilde · 07-22-2011, 04:16 AM

Just sold my not perfect 80' BB512 but fully original and perfectly maintained and serviced on a mechanical point of view, to Germany.

124.500€.

Boxer · 07-23-2011, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny Wilde

Just sold my not perfect 80' BB512 but fully original and perfectly maintained and serviced on a mechanical point of view, to Germany.

124.500€.

Very well sold.

Danny Wilde · 07-23-2011, 04:07 PM

Yes, indeed.

Was Happy t own it.

More happy now !

Boxer · 07-23-2011, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Wilde

Yes, indeed.

Was Happy t own it.

More happy now !

What are you planning on replacing it with?

Danny Wilde · 07-24-2011, 01:18 AM

Dino L-series.

Boxer · 07-24-2011, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Wilde

Dino L-series.

Have you located a car?

Danny Wilde · 07-24-2011, 01:27 PM

7, including 2 L.

Boxer · 07-24-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Wilde

7, including 2 L.

206

Boxer · 09-17-2011, 12:26 AM

I went back this morning and checked a few market prices on BBs and Dinos. Interestly, BBs are now at basically the same level, at least in the UK.

Danny Wilde · 10-19-2011, 06:27 AM

Down there, Dinos sell very well, BB do not.

01-15-2011, 12:49 AM	#201
Boxer Owner Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK Ferrari Life Posts: 12,773	In terms of the original question, have seen a few BBs coming up for auction recently. reserve prices seem to be down Euro 10-20k vs last year. Not sure if this is due to condition on individual cars or if prices have dropped slightly. Boxer Current: F40, F50, 612, 430 Scuderia Past: 360 Modena, 360 Challenge, 550, 575, 365BB, 512BB, 456 GT, F355 GTS, 365 GTB/4 Daytona, 308 GTB

09-17-2011, 12:26 AM	#217
Boxer Owner Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK Ferrari Life Posts: 12,773	I went back this morning and checked a few market prices on BBs and Dinos. Interestly, BBs are now at basically the same level, at least in the UK. Boxer Current: F40, F50, 612, 430 Scuderia Past: 360 Modena, 360 Challenge, 550, 575, 365BB, 512BB, 456 GT, F355 GTS, 365 GTB/4 Daytona, 308 GTB

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01-17-2011, 01:10 AM	#202
SCM246 Owner Join Date: Jan 2010 Ferrari Life Posts: 311	A friend completed a purchase of a very nice BB512i in great condition, where it had just completed the major servicing before sale and has all books/tools for USD$100k

07-22-2011, 04:16 AM	#209
Danny Wilde Owner Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Aix-en-Provence (FRANCE) Ferrari Life Posts: 25	Just sold my not perfect 80' BB512 but fully original and perfectly maintained and serviced on a mechanical point of view, to Germany. 124.500€.

07-23-2011, 04:07 PM	#211
Danny Wilde Owner Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Aix-en-Provence (FRANCE) Ferrari Life Posts: 25	Yes, indeed. Was Happy t own it. More happy now !

07-24-2011, 01:18 AM	#213
Danny Wilde Owner Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Aix-en-Provence (FRANCE) Ferrari Life Posts: 25	Dino L-series.

07-24-2011, 01:27 PM	#215
Danny Wilde Owner Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Aix-en-Provence (FRANCE) Ferrari Life Posts: 25	7, including 2 L.

10-19-2011, 06:27 AM	#218
Danny Wilde Owner Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Aix-en-Provence (FRANCE) Ferrari Life Posts: 25	Down there, Dinos sell very well, BB do not.