fuse box problems

watchbuyeruk · 02-03-2009, 06:47 AM

i have read that the mondial has problems with its fuse box, can any shed light on what the problems are.
gary

Granucci · 02-03-2009, 01:11 PM

We should first address your model, the 3.2 with corresponding electrical system. Perhaps branching in the title to include 3.0 or 3.4 can be done later.

Anyone want to go first, as I am not as versed on older models.

rik

watchbuyeruk · 02-03-2009, 11:19 PM

thanks again rik, your post on my other question answered all my queries.
gary

CKRacing · 03-15-2009, 12:10 PM

The problem with Mondial Fuse blocks are the fuel pump, starter circuit, and slow windows.

The different layers of the circuit board separate when the car begins to get warm. The most frustrating problem is the non start of the fuel pump and starter motor.
Every one that has had a problem with the fuel pump and starter has had to bypass the fuse block by removing the relay and running a separate hot wire from the battery and cutting the fuel pump and starter wire at the fuse block.

The slow windows will need to also have a hot wire run to inside the door and a set of relays installed to boost the voltage to the window motor.

I hope this answers your questions.

Charles

Gcalo · 04-20-2009, 10:12 AM

I have been finding info on replacement Mondial fuseboxes.

So far this is what I found:

Fusebox US$1200 - lead time 6 weeks
Wiper control unit about US$150 - lead time 4 weeks

I will get more info on ordering and availability. I believe these are being made in Singapore.

Sure sounds like a ton of $ to me but to have an updated and contemporary fusebox to prevent constant electrical problems I would think is quite valuable.

watchbuyeruk · 04-20-2009, 10:44 AM

thank you for spending time on looking this up for me.
gary

Gcalo · 04-20-2009, 10:57 AM

I believe in posting info I believe is valuable for everyone

I keep files on issues for cars I do not yet own, because for sure I will be buying a few other cars. It's invaluable to have that info available.

The fusebox issue is somthing critical and I am certain to buy a 308GT4 and maybe even a Mondial.

So this benefits everyone.

snj5 · 04-21-2009, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gcalo

I have been finding info on replacement Mondial fuseboxes.

So far this is what I found:

Fusebox US$1200 - lead time 6 weeks
Wiper control unit about US$150 - lead time 4 weeks
.

You can get them rebuilt with a new tech circuit card on an exchange basis through GT Auto Parts in Az for a lot less. I have their prototype #2 and it works wonders.
The $1200 was for a new build which I do not know if they are actually available.

Good luck!!

Gcalo · 04-21-2009, 03:34 PM

I don't see much price difference from GT Car Parts except for the fact that they are domestic.

They do 328's, Testarossa's, and Mondials.

It's done on an exchange basis.

Good info though, Russ.

snj5 · 04-26-2009, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gcalo

I don't see much price difference from GT Car Parts except for the fact that they are domestic.

They do 328's, Testarossa's, and Mondials.

It's done on an exchange basis.

Good info though, Russ.

To be a bit blunt, in my experience the price difference was almost $400, which is even really a bit moot, as I have not really seen that the new build units are even available in reality. Even then, the support of that product is tenuous. Clive is a great guy, but he has another job to focus on.

It's like asking me to make an exhaust - I do a great job within limitations, but its not my focus and I might be less able than a pro like you.

Gcalo · 04-26-2009, 07:56 PM

All well said and I am quite concerned as to his designated sales agent for the US!

A friend is $2,600.00 into him for work never done on his 328 and the new "distributor" is no longer in business.

So your source in Tucson does make more sense!

BTW, I think you did a great job on your exhaust. Want a job?

snj5 · 04-27-2009, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gcalo

All well said and I am quite concerned as to his designated sales agent for the US!
A friend is $2,600.00 into him for work never done on his 328 and the new "distributor" is no longer in business.

Was this the same man with the pullies? I thought he was still up and going.

Gcalo · 04-28-2009, 05:44 AM

No not the same as far as I know.

He was originally in Sacramento, CA.

Gcalo · 05-29-2009, 08:27 AM

Isn't Nick in Washinton State the one with the pulleys?

I might be wrong though.

Granucci · 05-29-2009, 10:20 AM

Just got an interesting PM solicitation from a new FL guy offering new, re-mfgr'd fuse blocks for all the Mondials to include the T.

there were several types for the T to include the cabriolet and coupe and PRE-1990 versions, as 1990 had a couple less 'extras' on the car.

I will keep you updated. BTW, IF you find a T's block expect to pay between [Lucky] $990-1,400 USD. I got one delivered from Europe five years ago for $900 US and considered myself VERY lucky.

will be interesting to see what this response will be like.

rik

02-03-2009, 06:47 AM	#1
watchbuyeruk Owner Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: bristol uk Ferrari Life Posts: 73	fuse box problems i have read that the mondial has problems with its fuse box, can any shed light on what the problems are. gary

03-15-2009, 12:10 PM	#4
CKRacing Owner Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: jacksonville, fl Ferrari Life Posts: 53	Mondial Fuse Block The problem with Mondial Fuse blocks are the fuel pump, starter circuit, and slow windows. The different layers of the circuit board separate when the car begins to get warm. The most frustrating problem is the non start of the fuel pump and starter motor. Every one that has had a problem with the fuel pump and starter has had to bypass the fuse block by removing the relay and running a separate hot wire from the battery and cutting the fuel pump and starter wire at the fuse block. The slow windows will need to also have a hot wire run to inside the door and a set of relays installed to boost the voltage to the window motor. I hope this answers your questions. Charles

04-20-2009, 10:44 AM	#6
watchbuyeruk Owner Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: bristol uk Ferrari Life Posts: 73	thanks thank you for spending time on looking this up for me. gary

05-29-2009, 10:20 AM	#15
Granucci Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: far and away Ferrari Life Posts: 5,025	Just got an interesting PM solicitation from a new FL guy offering new, re-mfgr'd fuse blocks for all the Mondials to include the T. there were several types for the T to include the cabriolet and coupe and PRE-1990 versions, as 1990 had a couple less 'extras' on the car. I will keep you updated. BTW, IF you find a T's block expect to pay between [Lucky] $990-1,400 USD. I got one delivered from Europe five years ago for $900 US and considered myself VERY lucky. will be interesting to see what this response will be like. rik Guide to the Galaxy: Don't Panic Rik -- LAH ! Current: 1990 Mondial T Cabriolet : Red/Tan 1995 456 GT 2+2 : Roso Metalizzato [Fer 311/C] & Tan

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02-03-2009, 01:11 PM	#2
Granucci Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: far and away Ferrari Life Posts: 5,025	3.2 Series We should first address your model, the 3.2 with corresponding electrical system. Perhaps branching in the title to include 3.0 or 3.4 can be done later. Anyone want to go first, as I am not as versed on older models. rik Guide to the Galaxy: Don't Panic Rik -- LAH ! Current: 1990 Mondial T Cabriolet : Red/Tan 1995 456 GT 2+2 : Roso Metalizzato [Fer 311/C] & Tan

02-03-2009, 11:19 PM	#3
watchbuyeruk Owner Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: bristol uk Ferrari Life Posts: 73	thanks again rik, your post on my other question answered all my queries. gary

04-20-2009, 10:12 AM	#5
Gcalo Owner Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Ramon, Calif Ferrari Life Posts: 3,613	I have been finding info on replacement Mondial fuseboxes. So far this is what I found: Fusebox US$1200 - lead time 6 weeks Wiper control unit about US$150 - lead time 4 weeks I will get more info on ordering and availability. I believe these are being made in Singapore. Sure sounds like a ton of $ to me but to have an updated and contemporary fusebox to prevent constant electrical problems I would think is quite valuable.

04-20-2009, 10:57 AM	#7
Gcalo Owner Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Ramon, Calif Ferrari Life Posts: 3,613	I believe in posting info I believe is valuable for everyone I keep files on issues for cars I do not yet own, because for sure I will be buying a few other cars. It's invaluable to have that info available. The fusebox issue is somthing critical and I am certain to buy a 308GT4 and maybe even a Mondial. So this benefits everyone.

04-21-2009, 03:34 PM	#9
Gcalo Owner Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Ramon, Calif Ferrari Life Posts: 3,613	I don't see much price difference from GT Car Parts except for the fact that they are domestic. They do 328's, Testarossa's, and Mondials. It's done on an exchange basis. Good info though, Russ.

04-26-2009, 07:56 PM	#11
Gcalo Owner Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Ramon, Calif Ferrari Life Posts: 3,613	All well said and I am quite concerned as to his designated sales agent for the US! A friend is $2,600.00 into him for work never done on his 328 and the new "distributor" is no longer in business. So your source in Tucson does make more sense! BTW, I think you did a great job on your exhaust. Want a job?

04-28-2009, 05:44 AM	#13
Gcalo Owner Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Ramon, Calif Ferrari Life Posts: 3,613	No not the same as far as I know. He was originally in Sacramento, CA.

05-29-2009, 08:27 AM	#14
Gcalo Owner Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Ramon, Calif Ferrari Life Posts: 3,613	Isn't Nick in Washinton State the one with the pulleys? I might be wrong though.